[33] The 2 Presences of the Christ - continued

The first part of the this section is now covered by I45. 

A Simple Coded Proof that each Presence lasts 120 years and is the existence of 1NC saints on earth

12 Then they returned to Jerusalem from a mountain, being called the [one] of Olives, which is near Jerusalem, having the way/route of the sabbath.
13 So, when they had entered, they went up into the upper-chamber, where they were staying, both Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James of Alphaeus and Simon, the zealot, and Judas of James.
14 All these were persisting like-mindedly in prayer, together with women and Mary, the mother of Jesus and with his brothers.
15 And in these days [temporal disconnect but the same apostolic story and cast so the same account] Peter rose up in the midst of the brothers [partitive genitive] and said the crowd of names was all together as [wV] 120:

The 120 names in the upper room represent the length of each presence being 120 years of upper room named saints (with their names inscribed in the heavens). A year of the presence of 1NC saints for a name I am giving you!

Furthermore no upper room can exist without a lower room. So there must be an earthly new covenant as well, the 2NC. 

The 120 year warning period given to Noah is the precise length of the first and second presences of the Christ

37 For just as the days of Noah were [the days given to Noah for both the warning period before the flood and the max length of a human life after Moses. This max lifespan was 120 years to the day, the exact length of the life of Moses], so the presence of the Son of man will be [120 years to the day].
38 For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark [on 2371Heshvan17],
39 and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be (Matthew 24).

So Just as Noah has 120 years warning to the day, before the flood came, so Jesus' 2nd presence ends on 2020Heshvan14, 120 years after it began on 1890Sivan12, but with a 4½ year gap of Daniel12  from 2001Chislev14 to 2006Sivan14 and with a 2 day adamic death and Jubilee restoration gap from 2012Sivan14-16 and a 5½ year gap of Daniel12 from 2013Adar10 to 2019Elul10 and a 5 month gap between reappointed and reverted Laodicea from 2019Shebat10-2020Tammuz10. The 2nd presence began with the 3EC baptism on 1890Sivan12 of the first HLC of the 100 year Asher Proselyte continuation call from 1890Sivan11 to 1990Sivan11, whereas Jesus began the first presence on 29Tishri10, Atonement day.

The post Moses maximum adamic lifespan of 120 years applies to both the adamic presence of the Christ and the non adamic presence

In fact since Jesus' wife, although a composite body, is living after Moses, who lived exactly 120 years to the Hebrew day (1594Adar1 to 1474Adar1) - see U31a, and since as Josephus observed and as we prove in intro15, Moses' age at his death is the upper limit for the age of any man today or any composite woman, we know that the presence must last at most 120 years.

2 and said to them: 120 years old I am today. I shall no more be allowed to go out and come in, as Jehovah has said to me, You will not cross this Jordan (Deuteronomy 31).

The Chronology of the First Presence

Now we can deduce from John 21 that Peter is mislead by the first true religion for 10 years...

18 Most truly I say to you, When you were younger, you used to gird yourself and walk about where you wanted. But when you grow old you will stretch out your hands and another [man] will gird you and bear you where you do not wish.
19 This he said to signify by what sort of death he would glorify God. So, when he had said this, he said to him: Continue following me (John 21).

Stretching out ones hands is a witness to 10 years precisely. Whereas 12 full baskets is a witness to 12 full baskets plus a 13th not full basket.

22 Jesus said to him: If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you? You continue following me (John 21:22).

The concern to Peter was that he had to change religions when Jesus came.

6 And so he came to Simon Peter. He said to him: Lord, are you washing my feet?
7 In answer Jesus said to him: What I am doing thou doth not understand at present, but thou will understand after these things (John 13).

Peter will understand when his feet are washed by Paul. The 1NCs from what became the Roman Catholic church were baptised into TCC2 by a washing of the feet at a Passover. 

Now Acts 10 tells us that Cornelius was baptised 4 days after a fast and that he was righteous. So the fast was the atonement day fast, the only one in the Hebrew festival calendar. So he was converted on Tishri14. 
We know from Daniel9 that Jesus died in the middle of the 7 year week of the LCC extension, the covenant that was kept in force for 7 years from the appearance of the Messiah, when Jesus was baptised and Michael entered him until the conversion of Cornelius. So Cornelius was converted in 36Tishri14, 7 years after Jesus' baptism on 29Tishri10 - see U193 for more.

But Cornelius was a centurion, a leader of 100 men, and he was the first Gentile to be converted, and was therefore a leader of a 100 fold Gentile call (from the parable of the sower, 30, 60, 100 fold). So the Gentile call lasted from 36Tishri14 to 66Tishri14 actually and then restarted in TCC2 for 70 years from 66Heshvan14 to 136Heshvan14. The first presence started with the entrance of Michael into Immanuel (so that Michael was present in the flesh) on 29Tishri10, when Jesus was baptised and possessed by Michael. It did not start, as we once thought, with the birth of Jesus on 2Heshvan21 BC and it did not start as we once though when Jesus became 11 years old. We understand that it had a gap of precisely 10 years in it from Daniel12 - see U152 and from John21 (the stretched out hand of Peter). We know that 5,000 men of Mark 6 were fed in leek green beds (with a water baptism) for 50 years, and then continued to be fed upon chlorine coloured (yellow-green) grass (not necessarily with a water baptism), until the end of the true church. 

TCC1 fed for 50 years of the sitting in groups and leek beds of 50 of the feeding of the 5,000 of Mark6 before they lost their leek green water baptism and became chlorine yellow green grass. 

39 And he ordered them to make recline all, company company [literally symposiums, symposiums], on the greenish/yellow [clwroj] grass [watered/dry grass - so with/without a water baptism].
40 And they reclined squares [prasia] squares [prasia] [literally garden plot, garden plot, or a bed of leeks, a bed of leeks], by 100, and by 50. (Mark 6 ED)

The Greek word for green is prasinoj which means leek-green. Liddell and Scott has...

L35576 prasia, prasia pra±sia,, Ionic Greek. &ih,, h`, (pra,son) properly a bed of leeks: generally, a garden-plot, Homer's Odyssey.:-metaphorically., prasiai. prasiai, in companies or groups, New Testament. 
L35578 pra,sinoj prasinoj pra,sinoj(&on; leek-green, light green***
L35581 pra,son prason PRA´SON Îa±Ð( to,, a leek, Latin: porrum, Aristotle.

L46332 clwro,j clwroj clwro,j, poët. cloero,j, a,( o,n, (clo,h) greenish-yellow (like young grass or leaves), pale-green, light-green, green, grassy, Homer's Odyssey., Sophocles., Euripides.; si,tou e;ti clwrou/ o;ntoj Thucydides.
2. yellow, of honey, Homer; avmfi. clwra.n ya,maqon on the yellow sand, Sophocles.
II. generally, pale, pallid, bleached, clwro.j u`pai. dei,ouj Il.;-then, as an epithet of fear, clwro.n de,oj Homer:-yellow, pallid, of persons affected by the plague, Thucydides.

So the leek green would be with a water baptism - which they sat down with in groups of 50 and 100. But Jesus instructs them to continue reclining on the chlorine yellow-green grass after the water baptism ends until the church becomes false - when he can give them no instruction.

Jesus was appointed/installed to feed 1NCs on 29Tishri2/Heshvan21. John did baptize at least 6,000 1NCs since there are 6,000 1NC reserves from the first presence half of a tribe of 12,000 of Revelation7 (all of whom were baptized by him personally - since his baptism was intransitive). 

1 When, now, the Lord became aware that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus was making and baptizing more disciples than John --
2 although, indeed, Jesus himself did no baptizing but his disciples did -- (John 4 NWT)

This was after the 12 apostles were called since Jesus baptized through them. Also Herod beheaded John before he heard the report of how famous Jesus had become. So John was murdered quite early in Jesus' ministry. So perhaps John had baptised 5,000 1NC reserves before Jesus was installed to feed or perhaps Jesus had 5,000 disciples to feed in late 29 AD. So the 50 years of Mark5 of 5,000 reclining upon green grass would run from late 29 to 79, when the 1EC water baptism ended.

So a 3½ or 4½ year bank of Daniel12 from end of water baptism would run from 79Tishri14/Heshvan14 to 83/84Nisan14/Iyyar14. The 1NC saints should all be harvested by Tishri14, the last day of the harvest before the first Sabbath of Booths. And the first 1NC Christian church (TCC1 which became the Roman Catholic Church) would fall on Nisan14 seeing as the 2nd 1NC Christian church (the Watchtower) fell on Iyyar14, the 2nd Passover.

So the far bank runs from 79Tishri14 to 83/84Nisan14

18 Therefore, in answer, the Jews said to him: What sign have you to show us, since you are doing these things?
19 In answer Jesus said to them: Break down this temple, and in 3 days I will raise it up.
20 Therefore the Jews said: This temple was built in 46 years, and will you raise it up in 3 days?
21 But he was talking about the temple of his body (John 2).

In the literal meaning, this was the physical human body of Jesus which was broken by the Jews and then resurrected in 3 days. In the greater meaning it was the church, the temple of TCC1 which was broken by the spiritual Jews, the sons of the JAC, the new covenant saints, who became a harlot church fornicating with Rome to become the Roman Catholic church after 46 years. Then Jesus builds 3 more churches on 3 further days, these being the churches of FDS2, FDS3 and FDS4. So it took 46 years to build Jesus' body in TCC1 by water baptism which would run from 33Nisan16 to 79Tishri14/Heshvan14, 46 Nisan1 sacred year starts. Herod's temple (which took 46 years to build, was a rebuilt of Zerubbabel's temple, which must have been broken down. 'Break down this temple' shows the temple existed before Jesus was sacrificed. It was the temple of his body. So it began on 29Tishri10. But it was the rebuild of Jesus' body that took 46 years just as Herod's rebuild of Zerubbabel's temple took 46 years. So there are 46 years of 1EC water baptism from 33Nisan16 to 79Tishri14, which is 3½/4½ times of Daniel12 before the fall of TCC1 (by then the Roman Catholic Church) as a true church.

Since the earthly fulfilment of the length of the two banks of the vision of Daniel12 is so obviously ambiguous (being either 3½x or 4½x from the dual or the Hebrew plural and from the time times and a half rather than time times and half a time) it follows that if the 2nd presence banks are 3½ years long then the first presence banks are 4½ year long and conversely. 

Alternatively, in the first presence, the 1290 days of verse 11 from the removal of the constant feature (the disgusting thing causing desolation having been set up) to the end of something cannot be the end of the Jewish system in 70 AD, because the 1EC baptism continued for 46 years of John2 after 33Nisan16, the rebuilding of Jesus' body temple and for a green (water baptised) leek bed of 50 years of Mark6 from late 29 AD, when Jesus was feeding 5,000 1NC saints (baptised by John) to 79.  And the constant feature falls after the baptism. So it must be the end of TCC1 as a true church. So the first presence banks must be longer than 1290 days and are therefore 4½ years long. so the far bank of TCC1 ran from 79Tishri14 to 84Nisan14.

But the vision of Daniel12 is symmetric so the ICC capability of the law of Moses ended on 24Chislev10, 4½x before John started baptising on 29Sivan10, the 1NC Pentecost.

FDS4 gets only 50 days because FDS2 gets 100 years feeding the 1NCs and they sat down in rows of 50 and rows of 100. So it goes 50,100,100,50. Also the one group did not come near the other all night long in the Exodus. So we do not see Watchtower 1NC reserves until after the last Passover held by Laodicea on 2019Heshvan14.

The 1st presence ran from from 29Tishri10 to 159Tishri10 - with 10 year gap of Peter's stretched out hands. It is not split 4½ and 5½ like the 2nd presence is, because there was no further presence at the end of the split first presence. So the time, times and a half of Daniel12 applies to the width of the stream when the gap in the presence is split but not when it is not split. And Laodicea was literal in the first presence - so there is no Laodicean betrayal or Laodicean part to the first presence. So the first presence restarted on 89Tishri14. 

Paul was installed to feed 1NCs for 100 sacred years to 159Tishri, when the last one died. So he was appointed/installed to feed the 1NC reserve on 59Heshvan2/Chislev21 (2nd to FDS1). But he was running an ELC church so he must have been appointed/installed to feed the ELCs first, he was indeed on 59Nisan20/Sivan9. The birth of the church would be 30 years before the 100 years of feeding. So Paul was baptised from heaven as Elijah2, on 29Sivan10, the 1NC Pentecost, on the very same day that John the baptist was baptised from heaven as Elijah1 !?!? 

FDS1 was appointed over all of Jesus' belongings, all the saints (of the time). So it has to fall over all his belongings before FDS2 can be appointed to feed any of those particular belongings. And since they must have been appointed to feed the 1NCs on 59Heshvan2 (2nd after FDS1) for 100 leek green years of Mark6 with a water baptism until the end of the first presence on 159Tishri10, FDS1 must have fallen and become ES1 before 59Heshvan2. FDS1 fell over the saints on 59Tishri26 - see U42.

The TCC1 and TCC3 2300 evening and mornings of Daniel8 have evening fulfilments as follows...

11 And all the way to the Prince of the army it put on great airs, and from him the constant [feature] was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down
12 And [the] army was given over, together with the constant [feature], due to transgression. And it kept throwing truth to the ground, and it acted and had success.
13 And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: How long will the vision be [of] the constant [feature] and the transgression causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on?
14 So he said to me: Until evening [and] morning 2300, and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition/restored (Daniel 8).

ES1 compromises with Rome (the Catholic - meaning unviersal - church)
1NCs ride the 7 hills of Rome as a harlot church
The first Bishop of Rome, Pope St. Linus becomes its head      1290 days of Daniel12:11 before the fall of TCC1 as a true church         4½x of the far bank of Daniel12 after 79Tishri14, the end of the 1EC water baptism
Transgression causing desolation to TCC1                                 Constant feature of Acceptable evangelism is removed                           TCC1 falls as a true church
68January15/16 AD  (67Tebbeth20)                                             80August19/20  AD (80Elul14)                                                                    84Nisan14
X__________________________________________________X________________________________________________________X
                    4600 Solar Days of Daniel8                                            1290 BLC days of Daniel12 (The Time of the End of TCC1)

The Catholic Encylopedia has St. Linus as the first Pope after St. Peter (who was never a Pope). And has St. Linus ruling from 67-76 - http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm
Wikipedia has St Linus becoming Pope in 64 or 68 AD.

"According to the earliest succession lists of Bishops of Rome passed down by Irenaeus of Lyons (c180 AD) and Hegesippus (c160) and attested by the historian Eusebius (c260-340) he (St. Linus) was entrusted with his office by the apostles Peter and Paul after they had established the Christian church in Rome. By this primitive reckoning he was therefore the first Pope. But from the late 2nd or early 3rd century the convention began of regarding St. Peter is first Bishop" - The Oxford Dictionary of Popes 2005 JND Kelly and M Walsh 

7 But, on the contrary, when they saw that I had entrusted to me the good news for those who are uncircumcised, just as Peter [had it] for those who are circumcised --
8 for He who gave Peter powers necessary for an apostleship to those who are circumcised gave powers also to me for those who are of the nations;
9 yes, when they came to know the undeserved kindness that was given me, James and Cephas and John, the ones who seemed to be pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of sharing together, that we should go to the nations, but they to those who are circumcised. (Galatians 2 NWT)

So Peter was never the Bishop of Rome!!

"The blessed apostles, then, having founded and built up the Church, committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate. Of this Linus, Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. To him succeeded Anacletus; and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was allotted the bishopric" - Irenaeus against Heresies Book 3 chapter 3. 

21 Do your utmost to arrive before winter. Eubulus sends you his greetings, and [so do] Pudens and Linus and Claudia and all the brothers. (2 Timothy 4 NWT)

The UN has 7 secretary generals (U Thant to Antonio Guterres) ridden by the Vatican with the blasphemous name of the Holy see. The Vatican gained permanent UN observer status on 1964April6 (1964Nisan22/23) during the tenure of U Thant.. 

So the whole first presence looked like this...

29Tishri10  - 79Tishri14  (50 years plus 4 days)
79Tishri14 - 89Tishri14  (10 year gap of Daniel12 and John21 in the first presence)
89Tishri14 - 159Tishri10 (70 years less 4 days of 1NC saints being in FDS2. This period ends when the last 1NC was transferred into his angel when his human body packed up. The 2EC water baptism continued for hundred of years thereafter)

This means that there were no first new covenant saints alive as humans after 159Tishri10 until Charles Taze Russell was sanctified into the 1NC on 1871Heshvan21. 

The stretched out hands of Peter in John 21 show us that Peter was mislead for 10 years precisely, after the end of the 1EC water baptism and the first part of the first presence until the start of the 2nd part of it - see U42. 

There were 7 Roman Emperors ridden by 1NC saints in the fallen Roman Catholic Church (Vespasian to Antoninus Pius) - we deduce this from Revelation 17 - see U159. 

Vespasian 69July1 - 79June24 (69Tammuz22-79Tammuz4/5)
Titus 79June24 (79June22 Gregorian = 79Tammuz4/5) - 81September13 (81September11 Gregorian = 81Elul17/18)
Domitian 81September14 - 96September18 
Nerva 96September18 - 98January27
Trajan 98January28 - 117August7
Hadrian 117August11 - 138July10
Antoninus Pius 138July10 -161March7

The Fundamental Pattern of Jesus' ministry applied to the JWs and the LWs

We have also seen that Adam's first 33½ years followed the same pattern as the first 33½ years of Jesus' first presence, and we have seen that the second presence is the same length as the first presence, both being 120 years long. Now we have discovered a precise correspondence between the ministry of Jesus in the first presence and the ministry of the first of the two witnesses of Revelation 11, the Jehovah's witnesses, in the second presence - see U173. 

The pattern of Jesus' ministry

Here is the order of events

1. Elijah starts baptising
2. Coming to the temple to evict dove sellers and money changers (John 2)
3. Man of lawlessness starts operating
4. Elijah in prison send his disciples to ask if Jesus is the coming one or are we to expect another? (binary question)
5. Coming to the temple on Palm Monday to evict dove sellers and money changers (Matthew 21, Mark 11, Luke 19)
6. Man of lawlessness revealed to closest disciples (apocalypse, manifestation to the disciples)
7. Shepherd struck in Jerusalem & flock scattered
8. Jesus is absent for 3 days in the heart of the earth
9. Man of lawlessness destroyed
10. Jesus manifested in a new human body the chosen ones
11. Sealing and outpouring of gifts of the spirit in Jerusalem

The above pattern is the pattern of Jesus 3½ year first century ministry as we shall see . It is also the template which reveals to us the pattern of events in both of his two 120 year presences. For God operates in a fractal manner...

[1] Elijah comes first (John the baptist).

10 However, the disciples put the question to him: Why, then, do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?
11 In reply he said: Elijah, indeed, is coming and will restore all things.
12 However, I say to you that Elijah has already come and they did not recognize him but did with him the things they wanted. In this way also the Son of man is destined to suffer at their hands.
13 Then the disciples perceived that he spoke to them about John the Baptist (Matthew 17).

This also shows that Elijah will come again to restore all things.

[2] Then Jesus' first coming to the temple to throw out temple abusers in 30Nisan:

13 Now the Passover of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
14 And he found in the temple those selling cattle and sheep and doves and the money brokers in their seats.
15 So, after making a whip of ropes, he drove all those with the sheep and cattle out of the temple, and he poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 
16 And he said to those selling the doves: Take these things away from here! Stop making the house of my Father a house of merchandise! (John 2).

[3] Then Judas, the archetypical man of lawlessness, went sour:

70 Jesus answered them: I chose you twelve, did I not? Yet one of you is a slanderer.
71 He was, in fact, speaking of Judas [the son] of Simon Iscariot; for this one was going to betray him, although one of the twelve (John 6).

[4] Then Elijah comes a second time. This Elijah sent his disciples to question Jesus:

19 So John summoned a certain two of his disciples and sent them to the Lord to say: Are you the coming one or are we to expect a different one?
20 When they came up to him the men said: John the Baptist dispatched us to you to say: Are you the coming one or are we to expect another? (Luke 7).

Quite obviously this cannot be the chap who baptised Jesus, because he kept crying out: See the lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world (John 1:29). He was in no doubt as to who was the coming one! So how can this be??

Well Jesus Christ was not baptised by John the Baptist, the son of Zechariah. To see why, see intro18. It was Gabriel who baptised Jesus, because he is God's high priest and he prepared Jesus ot be the Atonement sacrifice and presided over the entry of Michael on behalf of God. This new Jesus would ransom Adam's human soul his non adamic human body and ransom Adam's angelic soul with his angelic soul - see intro47. This is the meaning of his words:

4 It is not possible for the blood of bulls and of goats to take sins away.
5 Hence when he comes into the world he says: Sacrifice and offering you did not want, but you prepared a body for me (Hebrews 10).

For it is not possible for a priest such as Michael, a cherub, the holder of a master covenant with God to enter into a non priestly human vehicle. And no son of Israel under law could become a priest until he was 30 years old...

3 From 30 years old upward to 50 years old, all those going into the service group to do the work in the tent of meeting (Numbers 4).

23 Jehovah now spoke to Moses, saying:
24 This is what applies to the Levites: From 25 years old upward he will come to enter into the company in the service of the tent of meeting.
25 But after the age of 50 years he will retire from the service company and serve no longer.
26 And he must minister to his brothers in the tent of meeting in taking care of the obligation, but he must render no service. In accord with this you will do to the Levites in their obligations. (Numbers 8 NWT)

So you could be an assistant but do no service at 25 and you could do service at 30 under law.  David modified this to 20 years old, once the ark was permanently stationed in Jerusalem and the Levites no longer had to carry the tabernacle around

24 These were the sons of Levi by the house of their fathers, the heads of the fathers, by their commissioned ones, in the number of the names, head by head of them, the doers of the work for the service of the house of Jehovah, from the age of 20 years upward.
25 For David had said: Jehovah the God of Israel has given rest to his people, and he will reside in Jerusalem to time indefinite.
26 And also the Levites will not have to carry the tabernacle or any of its utensils for its service.
27 For by the last words of David these were the number of the sons of Levi from the age of 20 years upward.
28 For their function was at the disposition of the sons of Aaron for the service of the house of Jehovah over the courtyards and over the dining rooms and over the purification of every holy thing and the work of the service of the house of the [true] God,
29 even for the layer bread and for the fine flour for the grain offering and for the wafers of unfermented bread and for the griddle [cakes] and for the mixed dough and for all measures of quantity and size;
30 and for standing morning by morning to thank and praise Jehovah, and likewise at evening;
31 and for every offering up of the burnt sacrifices to Jehovah at the Sabbaths, at the new moons and at the festival seasons, by number according to the rule concerning them, constantly before Jehovah.
32 And they took care of the guarding of the tent of meeting and the guarding of the holy place and the guarding of the sons of Aaron their brothers for the service of the house of Jehovah. (1 Chronicles 23 NWT)

So Russell could become an Elijah aged 20 by Hebrew reckoning - due to David's ordinance. But Moses put the age at 30 and both John and Jesus were under law. Whereas Russell was not.

Jesus was 30 years old by Hebrew reckoning when Michael entered his body. Gabriel said to Zechariah, John's dad...

19 In reply the angel said to him: I am Gabriel, who stands near before God, and I was sent forth to speak with you and declare the good news of these things to you (Luke 1).

Standing near before God means God's high priest, it is a Euphemism.  

15 And as for the Levitical priests, the sons of Zadok, who took care of the obligation of my sanctuary when the sons of Israel wandered away from me, they themselves will come near to me to minister to me, and they must stand before me to present to me fat and the blood, is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah (Ezekiel 44).

Look! Gabriel is telling us that he is going to act as a priest before God.

The point of Luke 7:19,20 is that a second Elijah had now come, namely the original John the baptist himself, back in his own body, which was shortly to be decapitated to please a condemned woman, as a result of a promise for half a kingdom. It was this original John who did not know who Jesus was! He was a second Elijah, albeit in the same body as the first Elijah, who baptised Immanuel and presided over the entrance of Michael, who was Gabriel.

This is why John the baptist said to the Pharisees that he was not Elijah, whereas Jesus said that he was Elijah. Both statements were true. 

21 And they asked him: What, then? Are you Elijah? And he said: I am not. Are you The Prophet? And he answered: No!
22 Therefore they said to him: Who are you? that we may give an answer to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?
23 He said: I am a voice of someone crying out in the wilderness: Make the way of Jehovah straight, just as Isaiah the prophet said. 
24 Now those sent forth were from the Pharisees.
25 So they questioned him and said to him: Why, then, do you baptize if you yourself are not the Christ or Elijah or The Prophet? (John 1). Good question, this is a Reader Question.

13 For all, the Prophets and the Law, prophesied until John; 
14 and if you want to accept it, He himself is Elijah who is destined to come (Matthew 11).

[5] Then Jesus made a second coming to the temple to throw out defilers on 33Nisan10:

45 And he entered into the temple and started to throw out those who were selling, 
46 saying to them: It is written: And my house will be a house of prayer, but you have made it a cave of robbers (Luke 19).

15 Now they came to Jerusalem. There he entered into the temple and started to throw out those selling and buying in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves 
16 and he would not let anyone carry a utensil through the temple, 
17 but he kept teaching and saying: Is it not written: My house will be called a house of prayer for all the nations? But you have made it a cave of robbers (Mark 11).

12 And Jesus entered into the temple and threw out all those selling and buying in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. 
13 And he said to them: It is written: My house will be called a house of prayer, but you are making it a cave of robbers (Matt 21).

[6] Then the son of destruction, the man of lawlessness, Judas was revealed, at the last supper, to Peter and John.

[7] Jesus enters the heart of the earth. He becomes the focus of all of God's heavenly organisation, for 3 days and 3 nights (being in trouble the whole time, so he did not sleep in death - having no angelic statis unit - he went to Tartarus to preach to them and then to Gehenna to preach to them - see U251.

41 And he himself drew away from them about a stone's throw, and bent his knees and began to pray,
42 saying: Father, if you wish, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place.
43 Then an angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him (Luke 22).

[8] Then Jesus is impaled and the apostles become scared, stumbled, scattered and confused

31 Then Jesus said to them: All of you will be stumbled in connection with me on this night, for it is written, 'I will strike
the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered about.'
32 But after I have been raised up, I will go ahead of you into Galilee (Matthew 26).

33 Therefore Jesus said: I continue a little while longer with you before I go to him that sent me.
34 You will look for me, but you will not find me, and where I am you cannot come.
35 Therefore the Jews said among themselves: Where does this [man] intend going, so that we shall not find him? He does not intend to go to the [Jews] dispersed among the Greeks and teach the Greeks, does he? [Binary Question]
36 What does this saying mean that he said, 'You will look for me, but you will not find me, and where I am you cannot come'? (John 7).

Literally Jesus was impaled, and then went to the marriage of the 2nd Holy Spirit and spent 7 days in the bridal chamber from 33Nisan16-22 (modulo his appearances on 33Nisan16 and 33Nisan17 in Luke24 and John 20 etc.). He then appeared to the apostles throughout the 40 days of Acts1 from 33Nisan16 to 33Iyyar25, when he finally ascended to his father. 

In the greater first presence fulfilment of this, God struck FDS1, the Roman Catholic Church, with Passover executions, to effect an escape for his people. And after its fall, Peter (in FDS2) and James (of FDS2) both wrote to the 12 tribes 'scattered about', whilst Jesus was with FDS2 in the greater Galilee teaching the Greeks (binary question – by the power principle, the wrong answer to verse 35 must have some validity).  

1 James, a slave of God and of [the] Lord Jesus Christ, to the 12 tribes that are scattered about: Greetings! (James 1).
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the temporary residents scattered about in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, to the ones chosen (1 Peter 1).

[9]  Then Judas committed suicide

3 Then Judas, who betrayed him, seeing he had been condemned, felt remorse and turned the 30 silver pieces back to the chief priests and older men, 4 saying: I sinned when I betrayed righteous blood. They said: What is that to us? You must see to that!
5 So he threw the silver pieces into the temple and withdrew, and went off and hanged himself (Matthew 27).

[10] Then Jesus was resurrected and he manifested himself to his disciples:

1 After these things Jesus manifested himself again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; but he made the manifestation in this way (John 21).

This pattern holds true for both of his 120 year presences, the presences of his body, his wife, the living stones of the temple of the new covenant saints, as follows...

[11] Then the holy spirit was poured out at Pentecost. The apostles were sealed and the physical gifts of the spirit of the first century were received.

The Pattern of Jesus' physical ministry and the 2 Presences

We can see that there was a second coming in the first presence because Jesus said to Peter respecting John:

21 Accordingly, when he caught sight of him, Peter said to Jesus: Lord, what will this [man do]?
22 Jesus said to him: If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you? You continue following me.
23 In consequence, this saying went out among the brothers, that that disciple would not die. However, Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but: If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you?
24 This is the disciple that bears witness about these things and that wrote these things, and we know that the witness he gives is true (John 21).

The apostle John was still alive at this second coming which was actually to knock down the first Christian temple of the New covenant saints, which had Jesus as the cornerstone and as the foundation rock mass, and to build a second Christian temple, under the covenant of Bilhah, with Paul as the foundation stone, in temple buildings symbolism and as the second of the 4 cornerstones in overall temple symbolism. Paul was the second Elijah, who came first- see U42.

The manifestation of the first presence did not occur until the last hour, because John says:

18 Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour (1 John 2).

28 So now, little children, remain in him, that when he is made manifest we may have freeness of speech and not be shamed away from him at his presence (1 John 2).

The last hour was not of the first presence because verse 28 shows that he was absent! It must be the last hour of the day of the installed TCC1, which day ran from 29Heshvan21 (the 2NC Pentecost, when Jesus was installed to feed the 1NCs - see U42) to 84Nisan14, the fall of TCC1 as a true church. 54 years and 4 months and 23 days. So the last hour is around 54 months and 12 days long from 79Tishri2 (12 days before the end of the 1EC water baptism on 79Tishri14) to 84Nisan14. It is essentially the dry but true period of TCC1.

The manifestation in the first presence was the visions given to John, the book of Revelation. In particular the Woman with the golden cup riding the 7 headed beast which is the Roman Catholic church with the 1NC cup, riding the 7 hills of Rome. The mystery of the man of lawlessness is related to the mystery of the woman on the beast. The woman is the corrupt true church, the man is her head, the president of this church, the Pope. This man of lawlessness, who leads this woman of fornication, is brought to nothing (spiritually but not physically) by the spirit of Jesus' mouth at the manifestation of the presence, as we shall see below. 

8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth [scriptural understanding from the word of God] and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence (2 Thessalonians 2).

Whenever Jesus comes during a presence it is always to appoint a new religion. Since we now know that he comes twice in each presence, we know that he appoints 4 new Christian religions in total, 2 in each presence. It is the spirit of Jesus' mouth, or scriptural understanding, that does away with FDS1 and FDS3, and this understanding is given to FDS2 and FDS4 - see intro46 and see U34. 

New Covenant saints are sealed before the Manifestation of the presence (which results in the restarting of the Presence)

4 And when the chief shepherd has been made manifest, you will receive the unfadable crown of glory (1 Peter 5).

The sealing of the new covenant saints occurs at or before the manifestation.

14 That you observe the commandment in a spotless and irreprehensible way until the manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 This [manifestation] the happy and only Potentate will show in its own appointed times, the King of those who rule as kings and Lord of those who rule as lords, 
16 the one alone having immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom not one of men has seen or can see. To him be honour and might everlasting. Amen (1 Timothy 6).

If you keep faithful until the manifestation, then you are sealed, baptised into the name of the holy spirit. Because the manifestation of the presence ends the need for faith.

19 For what is our hope or joy or crown of exultation--why, is it not in fact you?--before our Lord Jesus at his presence? (1 Thessalonians 2).

13 To the end that he may make your hearts firm, unblamable in holiness before our God and Father at the presence of our Lord Jesus with all his holy ones (1 Thessalonians 3).

23 May the very God of peace sanctify you completely. And sound in every respect may the spirit and soul and body of you [brothers] be preserved in a blameless manner at the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ (1 Thessalonians 5).

8 From this time on there is reserved for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will give me as a reward in that day, yet not only to me, but also to all those who have loved his manifestation (2 Timothy 4).

He meant his physical manifestation. But the greater meaning applies to the manifestation of his presence (which you love if it reveals that you have been sealed). New covenant saints who remain faithful until then, get the crown of righteousness themselves.

It is most apparent from Matthew 24, that at least one faithful and discreet slave is appointed during each presence, since its definition is in the response to the question: what will be the sign of your presence? So the existence of an FDS is a 'sign of the times', just like wars, famines and earthquakes. The slave is a feature of a presence, not of the absence of Christ. It is not true however that no presence means no FDS. But a Presence means the existence of an FDS, and since existence of a FDS is a sign of a presence, the FDS does not exist all the time. So there is at least one period of non existence of the FDS between the two presences. It's like the parable says:

34 When the season of the fruits came, he dispatched his slaves to the cultivators to get his fruits (Matthew 21).

His faithful and discreet slaves appear in the seasons of fruits. Why, does not nature declare the impossibility of a continuous new covenant saint baptism? Which tree produces fruit all year round?

The man of Lawlessness

1 However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you 
2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord is here.
3 Let no one seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.
4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called "God" or an object of reverence [all the objects of congregational idolatry. The leaders of the church who accept and solicit worship of themselves], so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a God [worship me - worship me!].
5 Do you not remember that, while I was yet with you, I used to tell you these things?
6 And so now you know the restraining [thing], into the revealing of him at his appointed time.
7 For the mystery of lawlessness already is working within, only he [is] restraining right now, until it comes out of the midst
8 Then, indeed, the lawless [one] will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will take up in/by the spirit of his mouth and will make ineffective by the manifestation of his presence [whose presence? Jesus or the lawless one? Reads more like the latter].
9 The presence of whom is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 
10 and in all deceit of unrighteousness in those being lost, because they did not receive the love of the truth in order for them to be saved. (GLT- NWT - LWT)

These are the only two incidences of ‘mystery' [musthrion] in the bible (other than Revelation 17:7). So we apply the No Coincidences Principle and deduce that the man of lawlessness is leading the woman with the golden cup of the 1NC in her hand, the harlot church. So the man of lawlessness is those on the governing body who want the JWs to worship them rather than God. They acts as a restraint on Laodicea and on the LWs. They prevent the glorious good news of the 2NC and the final decoding of the bible from reach the congregation. The manifestation here is of the presence of the lawless one. It is the revealing of the corruption of the Governing Body of the Watchtower, by Satan. It all began when they became democratic.

Perhaps the manifestation of the presence of the lawless one and the manifestation of the 3rd presence of the Christ are coincident?

1 And one of the seven angels having the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying to me, Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot sitting on the many waters,
2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the ones inhabiting the earth became drunk from the wine of her fornication.
3 And he carried me away into a desert, by [the] Spirit. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, filled with names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 And the woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and being gilded with gold and precious stone and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominations and unclean things of her fornication.
5 And on her forehead was a name having been written: Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Mother of the Harlots and of the Abominations of the Earth.
6 And I saw the woman being drunk from the blood of the saints, and from the blood of the witnesses of Jesus. And I marvelled, seeing her, with a great marvelling.
7 And the angel said to me, Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman, and of the beast supporting her, the one having the seven heads and the ten horns.
8 The beast which you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss, and goes to perdition. And those dwelling on the earth will marvel, the names [Alexandrinus has name, Sinaiticus has names] of which [ones] have not been written on the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, the [ones] seeing the beast, that it was, and is not, and will be present.
9 Here [is] the mind having wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains, where the woman sits on them.
10 And the kings are seven. The five fell, and the one is, [and] the other has not yet come. And when he does come, he must remain a little.
11 And the beast which was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goes to destruction.
12 And the ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but will receive authority as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and their power and authority they shall give up to the beast.
14 These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and the ones with Him [are] the called and elect and faithful ones.
15 And he says to me, The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples and crowds and nations and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, and will make her desolated and naked. And they will eat her flesh, and will burn her down with fire.
17 For God gave into their hearts to do His mind, and to act in one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the Words of God shall be fulfilled.
18 And the woman whom you saw is the great city, having a kingdom over the kings of the earth. (Revelation 17 GLT)

In the church thread, the beast is the Watchtower congregation which was a true church until 2005Sivan14, and now is not a true church. And it was present as Jesus, then was not, and then was again through Laodicea. the 2nd/3rd/4th parts of the 2nd  presence are apart from the Watchtower congregation in a separated  and reappointed independent Laodicea. the 7 heads, the 7 mountains were the administrations of Russell to Henschel, and the administration with Adams as president, and the administration of Laodicea. The woman is the 1NC and her children. the 10 horns are the 10 governing body members in the 2nd presence. The 7 kings would be Russell to Henschel, then Don Adams and Robert Ciranko. The beast, the congregation of the Watchtower, those who do not leave that church, go to destruction.

If you confess and are disfellowshipped for a capital sin, then you can still be saved

5 Hand such a man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh [by stoning him - a mosaic metaphor] in order that the spirit be saved in the day of the Lord (1 Corinthians 5).

This scripture answers the question, will any of those who were judicially killed in the day of the flood or in the day of the destruction of Sodom, or due to the death penalty under the law of Moses, actually be resurrected? The answer is yes. 

The destruction of the flesh on judicial grounds does not condemn the spirit. Of course the man referred to by Paul was not physically killed by Satan. But Paul was using the symbolism of stoning under the Law of Moses in his condemnation of this man. Gordon has always believed that a man who committed murder or adultery under law, and who of his own volition owned up to the high priest knowing that this would mean certain death, and was indeed stoned by the people as a result, would certainly be resurrected. For his confession was the triumph of his faith over his sin (it seems to him). The physical is so often the very antithesis of the spiritual.

The 'day of the Lord' here must be the Kingdom of God, the Sabbath day of the Lord.