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[157] Daniel 8: The ram the goat and the 2300 evenings and mornings

1 In the 3rd year of the kingship of Belshazzar, the king, there was a vision that appeared to me, even me, Daniel, after the one appearing to me at the start [The vision of Daniel 7 in the first year of Belshazzar].
2
And I began to see in the vision; and it came about, while I was seeing, that... I was in-Shushan, the castle, which is in-Elam, the jurisdictional district; and I proceeded to see in the vision, and I myself happened to be by the watercourse of Ulai [The sons of the Law Covenant].
3 When I raised my eyes, then I saw, and, look! a ram, one (rx)) [that was] standing before (to faces of) the watercourse, and it had 2 horns [The Empire of Media and Persia]. And the 2 horns were tall, but the one was taller than the other, and the taller was the one that came up afterward.
4 I saw the ram making thrusts to the sea/west and to the north and to the negeb/south, and no beasts [other kingdoms] kept standing before (to faces of) it, and there was no one doing any delivering out of its hand. And it did according to its will, and it put on great airs.
5 And I, for my part, kept on considering, and, look! there was a he-goat (rypc) of the goats [The Empire of Greece] coming from the sunset [the West] upon the surface (faces) of the whole earth (Cr)) [to the attention of all administrations], and it was not touching the ground (Cr)) [Alex famously left conquered administrations intact]. And as regards the he-goat (rypc), there was a conspicuous horn between its eyes [Alexander the Great - powerful military visionary].
6 And it kept coming all the way to the ram, [the] owner of the 2 horns, which I had seen standing before (to faces of) the watercourse; and it came running toward it in its powerful rage.
7 And I saw it coming into close touch with the ram, and it began showing bitterness toward it, and it proceeded to strike down the ram and to break its 2 of horns, and there proved to be no power in the ram to stand before (to faces of) it. So it threw it to the ground and trampled it down, and the ram proved to have no deliverer out of its hand.
8 And [the] he-goat (rypc) of the goats, for its part, put on great airs to an extreme; but as soon as it became mighty, the horn, the large [one] was broken [Alexander died], and there proceeded to come up conspicuously 4 instead of it [Antigonus Monophthalmus then Seleucus Nicator, Cassander, Ptolemy Lagus, Lysimachus], toward the 4 of winds of the heavens [North South East and West].
9 And out of one of them there came forth another horn, a small one [Antiochus Epiphanes - Maccabees 1], and it kept getting very much greater toward the south [He conquered Egypt] and toward the sunrising [The Seleucids held Asia] and toward the Decoration [He conquered Israel in 170 and removed the gold and treasure].
10 And it kept getting greater all the way to the army of the heavens [The sons of Israel and the 2AC], so that it caused some of the army [sons of Israel and the 2AC] and some of the stars [Sons of Israel and the JAC] to fall to the earth [Leave their spiritual administration, leave their covenants and fall to the physical administration of Antiochus, even making covenants with them and building a Greek 'gymnasium' in Jerusalem], and it went trampling them down.
11 And all the way to the Prince of the army [Jesus] it put on great airs, and from him the constant [feature] was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down [Antiochus attacked Jerusalem again and defiled the temple and set up the abomination causing desolation on 168Chislev15, putting an idol altar on the altar of the temple and sacrificing a pig upon it, this threw down the temple, after the constant feature had been removed].
12 And [the] army [sons of Israel and the 2AC] was given over, together with the constant [feature], due to transgression [The transgression causing desolation was wicked Jews who made covenants with the Greeks. This lead to a new unified world order of idolatry at the command of Antiochus]. And it kept throwing truth to the ground [hiding truth in its administration], and it acted and had success.
13 And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: How long will the vision be [of] the constant [feature] [used as an adjective] and the transgression causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on? [How long will it be from the transgression causing desolation to the restoration?]
14 So he said to me: Until evening [and] morning 2300, and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition/restored [National idolatry at the written decree of Antiochus began in the 142nd year of the kingdom of Greece, the transgression starting on 171Elul29 (6th September 171) and the temple was restored and the altar rededicated by Judas Maccabeus on 165Chislev25 in the 148th year of the Kingdom of Greece over Israel, 2300 Solar days later. This being the origin of Hanukkah] (Daniel 8).

Verses 1,2,15,27 contain narrative. We separate the vision from the narrative with '...'. The 2300 evenings and mornings start with the transgression that causes desolation, and at some point during this period due to that transgression, the constant feature is removed. Throughout the period the holy place and the army and trampled on. The holy place is restored at the end of the period along with the constant feature. 

National idolatry with Antiochus Epiphanes      Temple Restored and Rededicated
Transgression causing desolation to Jews       By Judas Maccabeus  
6th September 171  BC                                    23rd December 165 BC
171Elul29 BC                                                   165Chislev25 BC
X___________________________________ X
                    2300 Solar Days

The 'start' in verse 1 was the first year of Belshazzar, when he had the vision of Daniel 7. According to Maccabees 1, Antiouchus took Jerusalem in the 143rd year of the kingdom of the Greeks (as a world power 1 Maccabees 1:21). Then on Chislev15 in the 145th year of the kingdom of the Greeks, the abomination causing desolation (an idol altar) was set up on the altar in the temple in Jerusalem (1 Maccabees 1:54). Then on the Chislev25 in that year, 10 days later, they sacrificed upon the idol altar upon the altar of God, defiling it. Then on the Chislev25 in the 148th year of the kingdom of the Greeks, they restarted true worship in the temple, having cleaned it up and rebuilt it. They dedicated the altar in an 8 day long ceremony (1 Maccabees 4:52-56). They did not storm the sanctuary when they first took Jerusalem:

The they built the city of David with a great and strong wall and with mighty towers and made it a stronghold for them. And they put therein a sinful nation, wicked men, and fortified themselves therein. They stored it also with armour and victuals, and when they had gathered together the spoils of Jerusalem, they laid them up there and so they became a sore snare. For it was a place to lie in wait against the sanctuary, and an evil adversary to Israel (1 Maccabees 1:33-36).

Josephus also has Antiochus taking Jerusalem in the 143rd year of the Seleucids (Antiquities of the Jews book 12:chapter 5).

Greek History

Alexander the great died in 323. The Seleucid kingdom began in 312 with the defeat of Demetrius Poliorcetes at Gaza by Ptolemy and Seleucus Nicator - CAH - The Hellenistic World Vol 7.1). This opened the door for Seleucus to retake Babylonia, which he did immediately in that year. 312 was the first year of the Kingdom of the Greeks over Israel, the Seleucid era. In 311 Ptolemy Lagos, Cassander, Lysimachus and Antigonus Monophthalmus signed a peace agreement to divide up the Kingdom of Alexander into 4 but as prophesied in Daniel 8 (4 Kingdoms) and in Daniel 11 (but not to his posterity). And then in 305 Ptolemy, Cassander, Lysimachus and Seleucus Nicator declared themselves 'kings' over the 4 quarters of the Greek empire, Seleucus having made conquests against Antigonus (in final fulfilment of the words of Daniel). Antiochus Epiphanes started reigning in the 137th year of the Seleucid kingdom, 176 (1 Maccabees 1) and took as regnal years 175 to 164 (CAH). He died in 164, the 149th year of the Seleucids (1 Maccabees 6).

After Jerusalem fell, Antiochus sent letters to Judah and Jerusalem that everyone should worship Seleucid Gods such as Apollo, or die physically. 

Moreover Antiochus wrote to his whole kingdom, that all should be one people, and every one should leave his laws: so all the heathen agreed according to the commandment of the king. Yea, many also of the Israelites consented to his religion and sacrificed unto idols and profaned the sabbath. For the king had sent letters by messengers unto Jerusalem and the cities of Juda, that they should follow the strange laws of the land and forbid burnt offerings and sacrifice and drink offerings in the temple. And that they should profane the sabbaths and the festival days and pollute the sanctuary and the holy people, set up altars and groves and chapels of idols and sacrifice swine's flesh and unclean beasts, that they should also leave their children uncircumcised, and make their souls abominable with all manner of uncleanness and profanation, to the end that they might forget the law and change all the ordinances. And whosoever would not do according to the commandment of the king, he said, he should die.(1 Maccabees 1:41-50)

The transgression causing desolation is described in Maccabees as follows:

In those days went there out of Israel wicked men, who persuaded many, saying: Let us go and make a covenant with the heathen that are round about us, for since we departed from them we have had much sorrow. So this device pleased them well. Then certain of the people were so forward herein that they went to the king, who gave them licence to do after the ordinances of the heathen. Whereupon they built a place of exercise at Jerusalem according to the customs of the heathen, and made themselves uncircumcised (not quite sure how you do that) and forsook the holy covenant and joined themselves to the heathen and were sold to do mischief (1 Maccabees 1:11-15).

It is quite feasible that this covenant was entered into in the 142nd year of the kingdom of the Greeks, 2300 Solar days before the rededication of the temple altar on 165Chislvev25 in the 148th year. The behaviour of the wicked Jews is identical to that of the Watchtower in becoming a UN NGO and the subsequent commandment of Antiochus is very similar to the position that the UN will eventually take with all religion. Also the constant feature may well have stopped due to famine before the disgusting thing, the abomination causing desolation was put in place.

The event symbolism, as described by Gabriel, is as follows:

Word or Phrase Event symbolic meaning
Daniel  Daniel
The one appearing to me at the start The Vision of Daniel 7 in the first year of Belshazzar
The Watercourse of Ulai The Law subcovenant of the 2AC
Ram  Medo Persian world empire
Two horns Kings of Medes & Persians
Taller and later horn Kings of Persians
Thrust to the Sea/West  Empire was to West of Persia
Thrusts to North and South Empire stretched South to Israel, and North to Greece
Hairy he goat  Greek world empire
From sunset  From Greece in the west to Israel and Persia
Not touching the earth Alexander famously left conquered administrations intact
Great Horn between eyes Alexander the Great, man with great military vision
4 succeeding horns 4 Generals who ruled after him, whom he divided his kingdom between
Antigonus Monophthalmus then Seleucus Nicator, Cassander, Ptolemy Lagus, Lysimachus
Small horn out of one of them Antiochus Epiphanes
Greater towards South Egypt
The Sunrising Asia Minor, Babylon, Persia
The Decoration Israel
The Prince of the Army  Jesus
The army Sons of Israel and the 2AC, those who kept the law
The army of the heavens Sons of Israel and the 2AC, those who kept the law
The stars fall to earth Sons of Israel and of the JAC lose faith and sin against the holy spirit, following the idolatrous earthly administration of Antiochus
2300 Evenings and Mornings 2300 Solar days from the transgression the caused desolation in Israel, namely the acceptance of the decree of Antiochus Epiphanes to join a unified new world order of idolaters of Apollo and other Seleucid Gods, in the 142nd year of the Kingdom of Greece on 171Elul29, to 165Chislev25 in the 148th year of the Seleucids when the temple was restored and the altar was rededicated and the constant feature recommenced.

14 To this he said: No, but I, as prince of the army of Jehovah, I have now come. With that Joshua fell on his face to the earth and prostrated himself and said to him: What is my lord saying to his servant? 
15
In turn the prince of the army of Jehovah said to Joshua: Draw your sandals from off your feet, because the place on which you are standing is holy. At once Joshua did so (Joshua 5).

3 And you must say to them: This is the offering made by fire that you will present to Jehovah: two sound year-old male lambs a day as a burnt offering constantly. 
4
The one male lamb you will render up in the morning, and the other male lamb you will render up between the two evenings (Numbers 28).

15 Then it came about that, while I myself, Daniel, was seeing the vision (Nwzx) and seeking an understanding, why, look! ...there was standing in front of me someone in appearance like an able-bodied man [rbg].
16
And I began to hear the voice of an earthling man [Md)] in the midst of the Ulai, and he proceeded to call out and say: Gabriel, make that one there understand the thing seen (hr)m).
17 So he came beside where I was standing, but when he came I got terrified so that I fell upon my face (faces). And he proceeded to say to me: Understand, Oh son of man, that the vision is for the time of [the] end [of the Law of Moses].
18 And while he was speaking with me, I had become fast asleep on my face (faces) on the ground. So he touched me and made me stand up where I had been standing.
19 And he went on to say: Here I am causing you to know what will occur in the final part of the denunciation, because it is for the appointed time of [the] end.
20 The ram that you saw, [the] owner of the 2 horns, [stands for] [the] kings of Media and Persia.
21 And the he-goat, the hairy [one] (ry(#), [stands for] [the] king of Greece; and the horn, the large [one] that was between its eyes, it [stands for] the king, the first [king] [Alexander].
22 And that one having been broken, so that there were 4 that stood up instead of it, there are 4 of kingdoms from [his] nation that will stand up, but not with his power [The Kingdoms of his 4 generals - Antigonus Monopthalmus/Seleucus Nicator, Cassander, Ptolemy Lagus, Lysimachus].
23 And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion, there will stand up a king fierce in countenance and understanding ambiguous sayings [Good at political deception - Antiochus Epiphanes used deception all the time on the Jews].
24 And his power must become mighty, but not by his own power. And in an astonishing way he will cause ruin [by introducing a new unified world order of idolatry], and he will certainly prove successful and do effectively. And he will actually bring mighty ones to ruin, also the people made up of [the] holy ones.
25 And according to his insight he will also certainly cause deception to succeed in his hand. And in his heart he will put on great airs, and during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin. And against the Prince of princes he will stand up, but it will be without hand that he will be broken [He died in misery and grief at the revolt of the Jews realising that his demise was a result of his persecution of their religion, i.e. as a result of angelic actions - 1 Maccabees 6].
26 And the thing seen of the evening and [of] the morning [making a whole day], which has been said, it is true. And you, for your part, keep secret the vision, because [it is] about many days...
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And as for me, Daniel, I felt exhausted and was made sick for [some] days. Then I got up and did the work of the king. But I kept showing myself numbed on account of the thing seen, and there was nobody understanding [it].

First Word Symbolism

Double designations: 
A ram, one standing before the watercourse
The ram, [the] owner of the 2 horns 
The he-goat, the hairy [one]
The horn, the large [one]
The king, the first [one]

Multiple Descriptions:
Army of the heavens, Army
Prince of the army, Prince of princes
Watercourse, Watercourse of Ulai
Thing seen, Thing seen of the evening and morning

So there are two fulfilments to the 'thing seen' in each word symbolic thread.

Multiple Designations:
Ram, [the] owner of 2 horns. So there are 2 word symbolic kingdoms described by these designations. These are the kingdom of all Israel (North and South), and Christendom (Catholic and Protestants).

Prophetic forms: Me, even me, Daniel, and: I, myself, Daniel. These mean there are 3 Daniels in all.

Noun count in the vision unless otherwise stated:

Noun Noun 
count

Event 
 Word 1  Word 2
3rd year of Belshazzar 1x 3rd year of Belshazzar 3rd year of WSS1, 70Nisan - 71Nisan na
3rd year of the King 1x 3rd year of the King (Belshazzar) na 3rd year of Gordon 2003Elul - 2004 Elul
Vision 6x Vision First word symbolic thread Second word symbolic thread
Thing seen 2x Vision Word symbolic meaning Word symbolic meaning
Thing seen of the evening and morning na 2300 evenings and mornings part Word symbolic meaning of the 2300 evenings and mornings Word symbolic meaning of the 2300 evenings and mornings
Ram 8x Medo Persian empire Kingdom of all Israel na
Watercourse 3x The sons of the Law  The sons of the 2AC The sons of the 2AC
Watercourse of Ulai na The sons of the Law  The sons of the 2EC The sons of the 4EC
Sunset 1x Sunset (geographically, the West) Sunset (of this system, the Kingdom of God) Sunset (of this system, the Kingdom of God)
Sea 1x West (of Israel) The Philistines Palestinian Christians and all round the Mediterranean
South (bgn and hbgn) the latter means towards dryness/Negeb. 1x South (of Israel) The Egyptians Those who had lost their water baptism (leaving FDS2 for Christendom and those under GNS2 for GNS2)
Southwards (and hbgn) 1x South (of Israel) The Egyptians South (of Israel) African Christians
North 1x North (of Israel) The Sidonians etc North of Israel, European and Russian Christians
Horn 4x King of empire Head of church Head of church
Horns (non possessive) 2x Concurrent kings of empires Successive heads of churches Successive heads of churches
Hand 4x Hand Hand Hand for 5 times
He-goat 4x Greek empire The True Christian Church na
He-goat of the goats na Greek empire A True Christian Church A True Christian Church
The hairy [one] na Greek empire na FDS3 (covered in Great Crowd)
Ground/Earth (Cr)) 5x Administration Administration Administration
Prince (2) (of princes)   Jesus Peter (heavenly prince) Gordon (earthly prince)
Prince (2) (of the army)   Jesus Jesus (heavenly prince) Jesus (heavenly prince)
Decoration 1x      
Constant feature 2x  Evening and morning sacrifice Continuous true worship in the true church of FDS1/WSS1/GNS1 until the church becomes false. Continuous true worship in the true church of FDS3/WSS2/GNS2 until the church becomes false.
Transgression 1x      
Army (non possessive) 4x LCC seed (Male Jews) Christian 2AC seed Christian 2AC seed
Army of the heavens na LCC seed (Male Jews) Christian 3AC seed Christian 3AC seed
Holy place 2x Physical temple Spiritual temple Spiritual temple
Face (faces) (non possessive) 7x Attention of Attention of  Attention of 
Face (faces) of whole of the earth na Attention of all the worldly administrations Attention of all the administration of Israel Attention of all the administrations of churches
Evening 2x Solar Evening Solar Evening Solar Day
Morning 2x Solar Morning Solar Morning Solar Day
Days 1x      
King (non possessive) 3x Worldly King Head of Christian church  Vassal king of Jesus over the sons of the 2AC
Kings 1x      
Nation 1x      
Able Bodied Man 1x      
Eyes 1x      
Son of man 1x Son of man (Daniel) - He saw the vision Son of man (Paul) - He saw the event symbolism Son of man (Gordon) - He saw the 2 word symbolisms
Daniel (narrative) 3x Daniel Paul Gordon

The Hebrew word 'faces' has the meaning of 'face' or 'attention'. 'To stand before' or 'to stand against' is 'to stand to faces of'.

1 In the 3rd year of the kingship of Belshazzar [WSS1 - 70Nisan-71Nisan], there was a vision [The first word symbolic thread of Daniel 8] that appeared to me, even me, Daniel [Paul], after the one appearing to me at the start [on the road to Damascus]
2
And I began to see in the vision, and it came about, while I was seeing, that... I was in-Shushan, the castle, which is in-Elam, the jurisdictional district; and I proceeded to see in the vision, and I myself happened to be by [the] watercourse of Ulai [Those water baptised into FDS2].
3 When I raised my eyes, then I saw, and, look! a ram [The Kingdom of all Israel], and it had 2 horns [The Northern and Southern Kingdoms]. And the 2 horns were tall, but the one was taller than the other, and the taller was the one that came up afterward [The Northern Kingdom was larger and came later].
4 I saw the ram [from King David to Judas Maccabeus] making thrusts to the sea/west [The Philistines] and to the north and to the south [From the Nile to the Euphrates to Tyre and Sidon], and no wild beasts [other kingdoms] kept standing before it [for long], and there was no one doing any delivering out of its hand. And it did according to its will, and it put on great airs.
5 And I, for my part, kept on considering, and, look! there was a he-goat of the goats [A true Christian Church] coming from the sunset [The Kingdom of God] upon the surface of the whole earth [to the attention of the whole administration of Israel], and it was not touching the ground [the administration of Israel]. And as regards the he-goat [The whole true Christian Church], there was a conspicuous horn between its eyes [Jesus, the power and vision of the church].
6 And it kept coming all the way to the ram [The Kingdom of all Israel], which I had seen standing before the watercourse [Those water baptised by John] and it came running toward it in its powerful rage.
7 And I saw it coming into close touch with the ram, and it began showing bitterness toward it, and it proceeded to strike down the ram and to break its 2 of horns [The religious administrations of Judah and Samaria], and there proved to be no power in the ram to stand before it. So it threw it to the ground and trampled it down, and the ram proved to have no deliverer out of its hand.
8 And [the] he-goat of the goats [The first true Christian church], for its part, put on great airs to an extreme; but as soon as it became mighty, the horn, was broken [Jesus was murdered], and there proceeded to come up conspicuously 4 instead of it [FDS1, FDS2, FDS3, FDS4] toward the 4 of winds of the heavens [the 4 spirit baptisms into the 1NC, the HHC, the 2NC and the EHC].
9 And out of one of them there came forth another horn, a small one [WSS1 out of FDS1], and it kept getting very much greater toward the south [the Egyptians] and toward the sunrising [The Babylonians and other easterners] and toward the Decoration [the sons of Israel].
10 And it kept getting greater all the way to the army of the heavens [The sons of the JAC], so that it caused some of the army [the sons of the 2AC] and some of the stars [the sons of the 1NC] to fall to the earth [fall from heavenly administration to physical earthly administration - lose faith], and it went trampling them down [repressing them].
11 And all the way to the Prince of the army [Jesus] it put on great airs, and from him the constant [feature] [sufficient true Christians so that some are always in true worship] was taken away [all of TCC1 disfellowshipped], and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down [not a living stone left upon a living stone].
12 And an army itself was given over, together with the constant [feature], due to transgression [Idolatary of Romans or  Roman Gods], and it kept throwing truth to the ground [hiding truth in its administration], and it acted and had success.
13 And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking [There are going to be two fulfilments of this, one for each holy one]: How long will the vision be [of] the constant [feature] and [of] the transgression [both used as adjectives] causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on? [How long will it be from the transgression causing desolation to the restoration?]
14 So he said to me: Until evening [and] morning 2300, and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition/restored...
15
Then it came about that, while I myself, Daniel [Paul], was seeing the vision (Nwzx) [The first word symbolic thread] and seeking an understanding, why, look!... there was standing in front of me someone in appearance like an able-bodied man.
16
And I began to hear the voice of an earthling man in the midst of the Ulai, and he proceeded to call out and say: Gabriel, make that one there understand the thing seen (hr)m) [The first word symbolic meaning].
17 So he came beside where I was standing, but when he came I got terrified so that I fell upon my face [turned his attention away from bible research out of fear of its glory]. And he proceeded to say to me: Understand, Oh son of man [Paul was a submediator of the JAC], that the vision is for the time of [the] end [of the Jewish system of things - the ram].
18 And while he was speaking with me, I had become fast asleep on my face on the ground [Paul fell asleep spiritually for a while, turning his attention to physical things, and Gabriel had to wake him up]. So he touched me and made me stand up where I had been standing.
19 And he went on to say: Here I am causing you to know what will occur in the final part of the denunciation, because it is for the appointed time of [the] end [of TCC1].
20 The ram that you saw, [stands for] [the] kings of Media and Persia [The religious administrations of Judah and Israel].
21 And the he-goat, [stands for] [the] king of Greece [The Christian church], and the horn, that was between its eyes, it [stands for] the king [Jesus, the head of the Christian church].
22 And that one having been broken [murdered], so that there were 4 that stood up instead of it, there are 4 of kingdoms from [his] nation that will stand up, but not with his power [FDS1, FDS2, FDS3, FDS4].
23 And in the final part of their kingdom [plural kings, singular kingdom, so it is the kingdom of the kings of Media and Persia, which are the religious administrations of Judah and Israel], as the transgressors act to a completion, there will stand up a king [WSS1] fierce in countenance and understanding ambiguous sayings.
24 And his power must become mighty, but not by his own power. And in an astonishing way he will cause ruin, and he will certainly prove successful and do effectively. And he will actually bring mighty ones to ruin, also the people made up of [the] holy ones [TCC1].
25 And according to his insight he will also certainly cause deception to succeed in his hand. And in his heart he will put on great airs, and during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin. And against the Prince of princes [Peter] he will stand up, but it will be without hand that he will be broken [the holy spirit will break him].
26 And the thing seen (hr)m) of the evening and the morning [The meaning of the 2300 evening and mornings], which has been said, it is true. And you, for your part, keep secret the vision, because [ it is] about many days...
27
And as for me, Daniel, I felt exhausted and was made sick for [some] days. Then I got up and did the work of Belshazzar. But I kept showing myself numbed on account of the thing seen (hr)m), and there was nobody understanding [it] (Daniel 8).

2300 Evenings and Mornings (First fulfilment, evening) 2300 Solar days from the death of Jesus, the transgression causing desolation to Israel, to the adoption of the name of Christians at Antioch. This adoption was the mark of approval from Jesus, that the temple sanctuary of the living stones (FDS1) was fully restored. 33April1 to 39July19, 33Nisan14 to 39Ab9/10
2300 Evenings and Mornings (Second fulfilment, morning) 2300 Solar days from the transgression causing desolation to FDS1 to the restoration of the temple and the constant feature in FDS2. From John 21 we know that Peter was mislead by WSS1/GNS1 for 120 months (10 years to the month). So he joined FDS2 in 79Nisan. Peter was quick to respond to his masters voice as we know from the account of them fishing on the wrong side of the boat in John 21. So Peter would have been one of the first 1NC saints to join FDS2. And once Peter had joined FDS2, the game was over. So the sanctuary was restored in 79Nisan. So the transgression causing desolation occurred 2300 solar days before this sometime between 72Heshvan11 and 72Chislev (72November12-72December11). This transgression was idolatry with Rome and was the birth of the Roman Catholic Church. The restoration on the other hand, 2300 solar days later is was the restarting of the first presence, which had ended in 75Nisan, 46 years after John's baptism started and restarted in 79Nisan, 4 years of Daniel 12 later.

26 It was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians (Acts 11).

So to sum up diagrammatically we have:

Pharisees commit idolatry with Romans
Jerusalem condemns Jesus, Romans don't           FDS1 take the name 'Christians' in Antioch
Transgression causing desolation to Jews              Holy place brought into right condition  
1 April 33 AD  (33Nisan14)                                       19th July 39 AD (39Ab9/10)
X________________________________________X
                    2300 Solar Days

What did the Romans ever do for us? They exonerated Jesus Christ! There is no abomination causing desolation in the evening fulfilment (the first one in the presence). The Abomination causing desolation of Daniel 12 was to the temple of FDS1, by the Roman state. FDS1 had the constant feature all through the vision period.

The transgression causing desolation to FDS1    FDS1 Constant Feature ends
FDS1 commits idolatry with Rome                       GNS1 becomes a false religion
The birth of the Roman Catholic Church.              After 75Nisan and Before 75Sivan26
Before 69Nisan1 (69March10/11)                          Before 75June27/28 
X______________________________________X
                    2300 Solar Days

Jesus has the constant feature removed from him. Jesus has authority over the saints. So there is a period when all the saints are in a false religion and therefore unable to worship him. So GNS1 became a false religion before Peter and other 1NC saints joined FDS2 restarting the constant feature. Although it is possible that Paul had enough sons of Bilhah, sons of the EHC in FDS2 to make a constant feature before the 1NC saints came in. Also the transgression causing desolation to FDS1 must happen whilst it still has authority over the saints, i.e. before 69Nisan1.

61 This man said: I am able to throw down the temple of God and build it up in three days.
62 With that the high priest stood up and said to him: Have you no answer? What is it these are testifying against you? (Matthew 26).

Jesus throws down the temple of GNS1 and builds up the temple of FDS2 in three days. These days really are the day of WSS1, the day of GNS1 and the day of FDS2 being in the right condition. But just as in the case of his resurrection, it is possible that the new temple might be restored fully on the third literal day after the temple of GNS1 is knocked down??.

Second Word Symbolism

Substitute 'ram' with 'one standing before the watercourse'. Substitute nouns acting as nouns only.

1 In the 3rd year of the kingship of the king, [3rd year of Gordon's kingship over all of the sons of the 2AC - the 1st year started in 2001Elul since the Watchtower was disfellowshipped on 2001Tammuz1] there was a vision [The second word symbolic thread of Daniel 8] that appeared to me, even me, Daniel [Gordon], after the one appearing to me at the start [1992 when Gordon started decoding Daniel 8 and deduced that the time of the end began on 1992February1, 1991Shebat21].
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And I began to see in the vision; and it came about, while I was seeing, that... I was in-Shushan, the castle, which is in-Elam, the jurisdictional district; and I proceeded to see in the vision, and I myself happened to be by the watercourse of Ulai [Those water baptised into FDS4].
3 When I raised my eyes, then I saw, and, look! one (rx)) standing before the watercourse [Sons of the 2AC], and it had 2 horns [FDS4, 2 presidents]. And the 2 horns were tall, but the one was taller than the other, and the taller was the one that came up afterward [the second president has more people and more decoded knowledge].
4 I saw [the] one (rx)) standing before the watercourse [Sons of the 2AC]) making thrusts to the sea/west [around the Mediterranean] and to the north [Europe and Russia] and to the dryness/south [ex sons of the 2AC], and no wild beasts [other religions] kept standing before it, and there was no one doing any delivering out of its hand [2001Elul to 2006Elul?]. And it did according to its will, and it put on great airs.
5 And I, for my part, kept on considering, and, look! there was a he-goat of the goats [FDS3] coming from the sunset [The Kingdom of God] upon the surface of the whole earth [to the attention of all the churches in Christendom], and it was not touching the ground [Keeping clear of Christendom]. And as regards the hairy [one] [covered in the 'great crowd'], there was a conspicuous horn between its eyes [Russell].
6 And it kept coming all the way to [the] owner of the 2 horns, which I had seen standing before the watercourse [FDS4 which now had the water baptism into the 2AC], and it came running toward it in its powerful rage.
7 And I saw it coming into close touch with [the] owner of the 2 horns [Christendom], and it began showing bitterness toward it, and it proceeded to strike down [the] owner of the 2 horns [Christendom] and to break its 2 of horns [Catholics and Protestants], and there proved to be no power in [the] owner of the 2 horns [Christendom] to stand before it. So it threw it to the ground and trampled it down, and [the] owner of the 2 horns [Christendom] proved to have no deliverer out of its hand [5 Presidents].
8 And [the] he-goat of the goats [FDS3], for its part, put on great airs to an extreme; but as soon as it became mighty, the large [one] [Russell] was broken, and there proceeded to come up conspicuously 4 instead of it [Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, Henschel], toward the 4 of winds of the heavens [North South East and West, over 200 countries].
9 And out of one of them there came forth another horn, a small one [True head of GNS2], and it kept getting very much greater toward the negeb/south [Those who had lost their water baptism - the ex sons of the 3EC in TCC3] and toward the sunrising [Eastern Europe] and toward the Decoration [over the remnant of the 1NC].
10 And it kept getting greater all the way to the army of the heavens [The sons of the JAC], so that it caused some from the army [The ex sons of the 3EC] and some from the stars [The sons of the 1NC] to fall to the earth [lose heavenly focus, lose faith], and it went trampling them down.
11 And all the way to the Prince of the army [Melchizedek] it put on great airs, and from him [GNS2] the constant [feature] [sufficient true Christians so that some are always teaching, evangelising or researching] was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary [The sanctuary of GNS2] was thrown down [not a living stone was left upon a stone].
12 And an army itself [The sons and ex sons of the 3EC] was given over, together with the constant [feature], due to transgression [given over to Satan, becoming a false church on 2004Elul14, losing its global 1AC baptism]; and it kept throwing truth to the ground [belittling it], and it acted and had success.
13 And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking [There are going to be two fulfilments of this, one for each holy one]: How long will the vision be [of] the constant [feature] and [of] the transgression, causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on? [How long will it be from the transgression causing desolation to the end of the constant feature or to the restoration?]
14 So he said to me: Until evening [and] morning 2300 [this is 4600 solar days in Word2], and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition/restored [perhaps at the immediate end of the 2300 evenings and morning or perhaps years after that]...
15 Then it came about that, while I myself, Daniel, was seeing the vision (Nwzx) and seeking an understanding, why, look! ...there was standing in front of me someone in appearance like an able-bodied man.
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And I began to hear the voice of an earthling man in the midst of the Ulai, and he proceeded to call out and say: Gabriel, make that one there understand the thing seen (hr)m).
17 So he came beside where I was standing, but when he came I got terrified so that I fell upon my face. And he proceeded to say to me: Understand, Oh son of man, that the vision is for the time of [the] end [well it gives the time of the end of the Watchtower, which becomes a false religion at the end of the second period of 4600 solar days on 2004Elul14. But the time of the end really runs from 2008Nisan14 to 2009Sivan15]
18 And while he was speaking with me, I had become fast asleep on my face on the ground. So he touched me and made me stand up where I had been standing.
19 And he went on to say: Here I am causing you to know what will occur in the final part of the denunciation, because it is for the appointed time of [the] end [This is the 'time of distress' of Daniel 12 we think. 2008Sivan15 to 2009Sivan15.]
20 [The] owner of the 2 horns [Christendom], [stands for] [the] kings of Media and Persia [Catholics and Protestants].
21 And the hairy [one], [stands for] [the] king of Greece [FDS3], and the large [one] that was between its eyes, it [stands for] the first [Russell].
22 And that one having been broken, so that there were 4 that stood up instead of it, there are 4 of kingdoms from [his] nation [under Rutherford, Knorr, Franz and Henschel] that will stand up, but not with his power.
23 And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion, there will stand up a king fierce in countenance and understanding ambiguous sayings [Head of GNS2].
24 And his power must become mighty, but not by his own power. And in an astonishing/wonderful way he will cause ruin, and he will certainly prove successful and do effectively. And he will actually bring mighty ones to ruin [He will ruin the 1NC and 2NC saints], also the people made up of [the] holy ones [Those in the Watchtower under GNS2].
25 And according to his insight he will also certainly cause deception to succeed in his hand. And in his heart he will put on great airs, and during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin. And against the Prince of princes [Melchizedek/Gordon] he will stand up, but it will be without hand [like the stone of Daniel2] that he will be broken [the holy spirit will break him].
26 And the thing seen of the evening and [of] the morning [The meaning of the 2300 evening and mornings], which has been said, it is true. And you, for your part, keep secret the vision, because [it is] for/about many days...
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And as for me, Daniel [Gordon], I felt exhausted [you bet] and was made sick for [some] days. Then I got up and did the work of the king [Jesus - Daniel works for God - rather than commercial software design!]. But I kept showing myself numbed on account of the thing seen, and there was nobody understanding [it] (Daniel 8).

The evening and morning fulfilments are measured in days say Gabriel in verse 26. This is ambiguous deliberately. In the second word symbolic thread, an evening stands for a day and a morning stands for a day, so 2300 evening and mornings is 4600 solar days.

In the Columbus Ohio convention from July24-30 1931, the Watchtower bible students took the name Jehovah's witnesses (in fact on July 26th). This convention was actually the time that the 2300 evenings and mornings of Daniel 8 were fulfilled in the first fulfillment of the second presence. If we count back 4600 solar days from the first day of the convention i.e. July 24th 1931 we end up on December 19th 1918.

Now on December 12th 1918 the Federal council of churches of Christ in America excelled themselves in idolatry by passing the following resolution:

... The time has come to organize the world for truth and right, justice and humanity. To this end, as Christians, we urge the establishment of a League of Free Nations at the coming Peace Conference (which was in Versailles -ed). Such a League is not a mere political expedient. It is rather the political expression of the Kingdom of God on earth... The Church has much to give and much to gain. It can give powerful sanction by imparting to the new international order something of the prophetic glory of the Kingdom of God. What is the Kingdom of God, if it not be the triumph of God's will in affairs of men, "righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit"? And what is this vision of a world federation of humanity organized on the basis of justice and fair dealing, for the effective and impartial maintenance of peace, if it be not of the Kingdom of God?

The Federal council of churches also passed a resolution to appoint a Special Commission to represent them and to take the resolution to the Peace Conference. The resolution was sent to President Wilson in a letter dated December 18th 1918.

So here was the harlotry of Babylon with the League, the church was jumping on the beast before it came into existence. Counting 4600 days after the date of this letter we end up on the day before the convention where JHWH gave his name to the Watchtower bible students, showing that the holy place was now in the right condition. In other words the 4600 days count exclusively.

4600 Solar days rather than lunar days, because the 2300 evenings and mornings are a vision of the constant feature, and this was a genuine daily feature, not a prophetic Hebrew calendar feature. And 4600 rather than 2300 because the constant feature occurred two times in a day, or putting in another way in 2300 evenings and mornings there were 4600 constant feature sacrifices. So the constant feature occurred 4600 times in this period, so then take a day for a constant feature and we get 4600 days. 

14 Until 2300 evenings and mornings and the holy place will certainly be brought into the right condition (Daniel8).

And the holy place is earthly Jerusalem, the administrative centre, the FDS3. It came into the right condition at the time of the Columbus Ohio convention, not by announcement in the Watchtower magazine on October 15, 1932 (YW p216) as is currently proposed in the Daniel book (Your will be done on earth - JW publication), a date arrived at by counting 2300 literal days from the convention at the famous Albert Hall on May 25-31 1926. Jehovah must have brought his sanctuary into the right condition by July 1931 because if he had not done so then we would be in a situation where his name would have been given to something which was not in the right condition and this is impossible.

The second fulfillment of the 2300 evening and mornings is from the start of the time of the end until the end, since Gabriel has told us that:

17 Understand, Oh Son of man, that the vision is for the time of the end (Daniel 8).

And they end with the restoration of the temple of FDS4.

Gordon himself first calculated that Armageddon was in 2008 CE, from a parallel to the Gentile and Alienation Times (this parallel was to become the prophecy of the Exedenic Times on 21 January 1992). He did not get an explicit bible witness to the Exedenic Times, which first came in the form of the curse of Cain of Genesis 4:15, until the day of February 1, 1992 (before 6pm). So counting inclusively the 4600 days end on 2004September 4th (before 6pm) or 2004Elul16. But this is the day of the second passover, the second new covenant celebration. A good day for the temple of FDS4 to be restored (actually having some 1NC saint in it).

The main recollection that he now has of February 1, is that he had a pizza with some of the brothers and a sister that evening (1991Shebat22). The sister asked the writer:

"Have you worked out when Armageddon is yet?"

The writer thought to himself: She has asked this question on exactly the right day, because today I know for a fact that it's 2008, because I have just understood the greater meaning of the curse of Cain. The writer then said to the sister: "Yes". She replied: "So when is it?" The writer then said:

"You will never reach 50!"

It is not necessary for there to have been a convention to mark this date because there was no action taken by the society to correspond with this prophecy, because they are sad hypocrites unworthy of their founder. The writer himself did not turn his attention to the book of Daniel until early March. Daniel itself was therefore allowed to be unsealed by holy spirit by the time that the writer actually had a look at it with a view to understanding its greater meanings.

Now unbeknown to Gordon or to 5 million JWs, the Watchtower joined the UN as an NGO on January 28th 1992 - woops - see [246], 3 days before Gordon worked out the date of Armageddon. So the transgression causing desolation occurred 3 days before the time of the end began, so the 4600 days had the transgression causing desolation until 2001October9 and had the constant feature right until 2004Elul14, when the 1AC capability of the Watchtower was lost and it became a false religion like the catholics. So one or other was the case all the way through the 4600 days. 

The Watchtower actually acknowledge that the UN is the disgusting thing that will cause desolation to God's people. They just failed for 10 years to acknowledge that they were riding on its back.

So the second presence evening fulfilment (which came first) of the 4600 days, which started with the Federal Council of churches associating themselves with the LN (League of Nations), is followed by the morning fulfilment (which came second in the Hebrew day) of the 4600 days, which started with Gordon working out the date of Armageddon and with the Watchtower associating themselves with the UN. And the first was the transgression that caused desolation to the great Harlot of Babylon, the Babylon without, and the second was the transgression that caused desolation to the harlot of the Evil slave, the Babylon within. Because at the end of the day, both harlots are left devastated and naked, both harlots are desolated, incredibly by the same beast and for the same transgression.

It's like Daniel said to Belshazzar, referring to Nebuchadnezzar his father:

22 And as for you, his son, Belshazzar, you have not humbled your heart although you knew all this. 
23 But against the Lord of the heavens you exalted yourself (Daniel 5).

2300 Evenings and Mornings (First fulfilment, evening) 4600 Solar days from the resolution of the Federal Council of Churches in the US to the League of Nations declaring them to be the political expression of the Kingdom of God on earth. To the first day of the Columbus Ohio Convention of the Jehovah's witnesses on 1931July24, during which they took the name Jehovah's witnesses. This name is only given when the sanctuary is restored and the constant feature is in place.
2300 Evenings and Mornings (Second fulfilment, morning) 4600 Solar days from the transgression causing desolation to FDS3 to the end of the constant feature on 2004Elul14. FDS3 became a UN NGO on January 28th 1992. This was their transgression causing desolation to them. Gordon worked out the date of the end on 1991Shebat21 (1992 February 1st in the day), perhaps God gave him this as a response to the idolatry of the Watchtower. 2004Elul14, is the day according to Daniel 12 (1290 days before 2008Nisan14), when the constant feature ends. The abomination causing desolation is placed later and starts another period of 1290 days we think.


Letter to President Wilson with FCC resolution      Convention where Watchtower gets divine name
FCC commits idolatry with League on Nations       'Jehovah's Witnesses'
Transgression causing desolation to Babylon         Holy place brought into right condition  
December 18th 1918                                                24th July 1931
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           4600 Solar Days counting exclusively

There is no abomination causing desolation in the first fulfilment (the evening fulfilment). The Watchtower had the constant feature all through this vision.


Holy Place of Watchtower loses water baptism       Wheat price at short term high
Paul Gillies letter no repentance for UN                    Stop acting as prophets of Baal
Holy place in wrong condition after 7 days                Holy place in right condition 
2001Heshvan7                                                           2007Adar27
X________________________________________X
                    2300 BLC Days

The Harlot rode the Beast                                         The Constant feature of true worship ends in GNS2
Watchtower join the UN as an NGO                         Abomination Causing Desolation placed before this
Transgression causing desolation to FDS3             Army released to Satan, no longer true worshippers.
January 28/29, 1992                                                  September 1st/2nd 2004 (2004Elul14)
X________________________________________X
                    4600 Solar Days

There is a 4600 solar day period for FDS4 from the 'time of the end' to the right condition of the temple.
There is a 4600 solar day period for FDS3, from their transgression that causes desolation to the placing of the abomination that causes desolation, the takeover of the Watchtower priesthood by non 1NC saints, which is the end of the constant feature and the end of the Watchtower as a true religion. 

19 In answer Jesus said to them: Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Therefore the Jews said: This temple was built in forty-six years, and will you raise it up in three days?
21 But he was talking about the temple of his body (John 2).

Charles Russell was water baptised in 1884Tishri and he was the first stone in the temple of the Watchtower, the cornerstone laid upon the foundation of Jesus Christ himself. The temple of FDS3 came into the right condition in 1931Ab7, which is 46 years and 10 months later.

The big picture

All transgressions that cause desolation are the same. They are the idolatry of a 'new' 'unifying' world order by an old true religion. The Jews fell for the new unifying world order of Antiochus Epiphanes, they then killed Jesus in a further transgression. The first century Christians fell for the new religious unifying world order of the Roman Catholic church (even Peter himself fell at first). Christendom fell for the new unifying world order of the League of Nations. The Watchtower fell for the new unifying world order of the United Nations. And now in 2008 all the world will be required to accept the mark of the UN, which is the approval of the UN. All corporate entities will be required to become UN NGOs and be 'married' to the UN and therefore take its name. All individual humans will be required to register with the UN, they will then get a UN ID number, the number of its name. And nearly all of these people and corporations will think and believe the lie that this is a brand new and brilliant idea to combat terrorism. This is because these people have given up thinking for themselves, they have given up researching man's history for themselves. They have become like the lemming that follows others over the cliff and like the bull that follows the lead bull into the Abattoir. They are the pilot whales who follow the lead whale onto the beach. This is not a knew idea, it is an old trick of Satan. It is a trick that he has used no less that 4 times already! It is always a mechanism for him to destroy the true religion. But this time it won't work on the true people of God. May God give us the strength and vision to stay faithful.

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Technical Notes

The 3.5 years of drought of the earlier bank ended with the first water baptism of John in 29Nisan and so started in 25Tishri. He said:

9 and do not presume to say to yourselves, 'As a father we have Abraham.' For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones (Matthew 3).

For in fact no Pharisee has Abraham as a father through the 2AC at that time due to the drought. The stones were those who John had already baptised. For the scripture says...

4 Paul said: John baptized with the baptism [in symbol] of repentance telling the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus. (Acts 19).

So those baptised by John, who actually listened to him, would become stones, when they were sanctified.

The finishing of the dashing of the power of the holy people to pieces is the placing of the disgusting thing that causes desolation. Because once the altar is defiled one cannot sacrifice on it any more and so the holy people have no priesthood which is their power. So the end of the 1260 days is the start of the 1290 days.

Mark of beast is approval (c.f. Jerusalem mark in Ezekiel) 
Corporate persons approval is the Name of beast is marriage. NGO affiliated
Individual persons approval is the number of the beast, a UN registration number for all individuals (like in Jesus day).

Presence runs to 2001Heshvan7 then restarts on 2005Nisan30 then ended on 2007Nisan3. So it lasted precisely 120 BLC years. 

The BLC differs from the Hebrew Calendar in use at the time of Jesus by a few days. In Jesus' day they actually watched the phases of the moon to get the month. So since the lunar month is around 29.5 days long the months were basically as follows:

Month Number of Days in First Century Hebrew Calendar Number of Days in BLC
Nisan 30 30
Iyyar 29 30
Sivan 30 30
Tammuz 29 30
Ab 30 30
Elul 29 30
Tishri 30 30
Heshvan 29 30
Chislev 30 30
Tebbeth 29 30
Shebat 30 30
Adar 29 30

The Constant feature is the heartbeat of the congregation, constant true worship. It ends when the church can no longer maintain a 1AC baptism, which is when the church becomes totally worthless, a false church. this befell the Watchtower on 2004Elul14, 4600 days after they joined the UN as an NGO.