Q1: How will faith and belief help my life in this world?
Q2: Why does God not show himself to people directly when they suffer especially children?
Q3: What proof is there of a better life waiting after this one?
Q4: Why are the LW's right but other religions are wrong?
Q5: Should we all just give up now and wait for the end if the world is going to end soon?
Q6: Is faith and forgiveness really enough to enter the new world or do we need intensive knowledge of the bible?
Q7: Why not make man (even with free will) follow the right path from birth? Why make us destroy/hate/corrupt/kill in the first place?
Q8: Given the abuses mankind has made of his free will would it not have been better for God who sees all in advance to have made us without it?
Q9: If I was responsible for the welfare of an errant child, I would want to make my written instructions as clear as possible. This appears not to be the case as the Churches all disagree on what they mean. How can the child be held responsible for not acting in accordance with his parent's wishes, when the wishes are so open to interpretation?
Q10 There must have been a time, many years ago now, that you had a eureka moment when you realised you had "stumbled" across the biblecode that is the basis of your whole "thesis"(for want of a better word). What was the event or series of events that absolutely proved it to you, without a shadow of a doubt?
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Q101: Pre 911 Banter
Q1: How will faith and belief help my life in this world?
A1: If you are 3-0 down but you know you will win the match 4-3 you will not lose heart. Faith assures us that however bad it is now, we shall certainly see the Hollywood ending that every film audience wants.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away (Revelation 21).
The pain and suffering resulting from sin in this world is a temporary blip in mankind's inexorable rise to perfect love of Jesus Christ and the perfect justice and righteousness of his father Jehovah.
10 The children of God and the children of the Devil are evident by this fact: Everyone who does not carry on righteousness does not originate with God, neither does he who does not love his brother (1 John 3).
9 Jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance (2 Peter 3:9).
10 the One telling from the beginning the finale, and from long ago the things that have not been done; the One saying, 'My own counsel will stand, and everything that is my delight I shall do' (Isaiah 46).
Now if God desires everyone to achieve repentance, and if everything that he desires he does, then we shall all attain to repentance and so all be children of God and so all carry on righteousness and love our brothers. He will not fail any of his sons or daughters or give up on one of them. Why even Satan will one day repent. But some of us may take a very very long time to get there!
1 Now faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities not beheld (Hebrews 11).
Faith gives us another currency, so that even if we go bankrupt financially, we are millionaires in the true heavenly currency, the heavenly riches...
Stop storing up for yourselves treasures upon the earth, where moth and rust consume, and where thieves break in and steal.
20 Rather, store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes, and where thieves do not break in
and steal (Matthew 6).
The heavenly treasure is real, it is righteous acts, it is a measure of how much you love others. You heavenly bank account contains the value of your spiritual works, the good deeds and the loving deeds that you have done for God and for others. Your citizenship of the kingdom of God depends upon what it is in this bank account. The earthly treasure, the greenbacks, are fake. this treasure is gained for the most part through unrighteous acts (arms and drugs are the two largest economic activities on this planet), and it is a measure of how much more you love yourself than you love your brother or sister. Satan bribes us with a fake currency to behave unrighteously and therefore lose our real currency. If you see this, he may bankrupt you financially will never bankrupt you spiritually. He will not rob you of your citizenship of the Kingdom of God which Jesus preached.
Q2: Why does God not show himself to people directly when they suffer especially children?
A2: Because he gave us free will in order that we can choose what to do for ourselves without being unduly influenced by an omnipotence standing over us. We are all children in this system. Just as we send our children to school without their parents, so God has sent us to the school of this system without being there himself. But he has given us Satan as the headmaster! So it is a rough school! But we shall see God when we get home from school after this system ends.
We are all children of God, learning the character qualities of our father, some faster than others. The pain and suffering of innocent people, children and elderly and everyone in between is the price we pay for free will. Now in this system there is terrible injustice. King David said:
2 As for me, my feet had almost turned
aside. My steps had nearly been made to slip.
3 For I became envious of the boasters. I would see the very peace of wicked people.
4 For they have no deathly pangs; And their paunch is fat (Psalm 73).
And whilst it is true that many people do reap what they sow in this system, many do not. For example Pohl Pot in Cambodia killed and tortured millions and yet lived fairly well and died at a fairly old age, a lot older than most of his victims. How can he ever pay for killing millions of people? Well he will go to hell since he died unrepentant and made no attempt to apologise or compensate relatives of those he killed and tortured. And after 1,000 years of existence in a prison for spirits wherein he will not have any sort of body, having shown utter disregard for the bodies of his brothers and sisters, he may be released. He will then spend the next few million years apologising to those he killed all of whom will be resurrected and will live for ever in one form or another as will he. He will face all of the pain that he caused and he will reap everything that he sowed.
7 Be not deceived; God is not to be mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap (Galatians 6).
13 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.
14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 19)
Q3: What proof is there of a better life waiting after this one?
A3: The Angel Gabriel said that Jesus would be the king of the Kingdom of God which he preached. Given the morality which Jesus both taught and practiced and given his healing miracles and his love for us, he would clearly make a better life for everyone than what we presently get from our corrupt world leaders!
31 And, look! you will conceive in your womb and give birth to a
son, and you are to call his name Jesus.
32 This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High; and Jehovah God will give him the throne of David his
33 and he will rule as king over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end of his kingdom.
34 But Mary said to the angel: How is this to be, since I am having no intercourse with a man? (Luke 1).
Certainly Mary produced him. So Gabriel got that right! So why not believe his next sentence as well? There are many scriptures in the bible that make reference to the Kingdom of God which will return mankind to the paradise from which Adam was evicted. We will not go back to be naked in a garden of fruit trees. But we will return to a paradise commensurate with our advancement since then.
4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the Lord of hosts hath spoken it (Micah 4).
21 And they will certainly build houses and have occupancy; and they will certainly plant vineyards and eat [their] fruitage (Isaiah 65).
In this system the people who build the houses do not get to live in them and the people who plant vineyards do not get to eat their fruitage. The next system is meritocratic, it is just and fair. If you work for something you will get it. If you do not work for it, you will not get it. But if you need it, your loving brother himself will give you it, as a matter of choice, out of love.
Q4: Why are the LW's right but other religions are wrong?
A4: The Lordsí Witnesses have discovered the grammatical parity checks that demonstrates that they, and they alone, understand the true inspired code of the bible.
The other religions are not 'wrong'. Nearly every religion has something right. The Mormons know that we shall one day become Gods, being sons of God. The Jehovah's Witnesses know that there are only 144,000 First New covenant saints, and that the kingdom of God has an earthly part and a heavenly part. The Born agains (very few of whom are actually born again) know that Jesus is a God to be prayed to. The Muslims know that this system will end soon. The Jews know that Jehovah is the true God and there is no trinity. The protestants know that the Catholic church is corrupt and that the Pope is not infallible and that there is no purgatory. The Catholics know that Jesus died to save us. But God only had one temple in Israel and only one door into that temple. It is Satan who is divided against himself not God. So God only ever has one true church (other than during a cross over period between true churches). The Lordsí Witnesses believe and can prove from the scriptures that they are the Fourth True Christian Church, the Church of the Second New Covenant. This statement of itself contains two definitions that no other church, Christian or otherwise, has thus far understood from scripture. No other church, as far as we are aware, continuously challenges and develops and changes its doctrine in an effort to get to Godís truth. No other church admits that it is wrong so often.
The LWs adhere to doctrinal repentance, for the church is just a composite person. It is as flawed as any of its adherents, Most other religions generally have fossilized dogma, for church doctrine, that was last revised several few centuries ago! The best way for the reader to demonstrate this for himself is by reviewing the material on the True Bible Code web-site and judging the quality of the Lordsí Witnessesí understandings at first hand compared with the teachings of any other church or religion.
if you keep seeking for it
as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it,
5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God (Proverbs 2).
7 Keep on asking, and it will be given you; keep on seeking, and you will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to you (Matthew 7).
12 forasmuch as an extraordinary spirit and knowledge and insight to interpret dreams and the explanation of riddles and the untying of knots had been found in him, in Daniel, whom the king himself named Belteshazzar. Now let Daniel himself be called, that he may show the very interpretation (Daniel 5).
Q5: Should we all just give up now and wait for the end if the world is going to end soon?
A5: We should take our investment of time and resources and confidence and trust out of this world and put it into the next. For the ARC world ended on 2008Nisan14, Satan's lease ended on 2012Nisan14 and the end of the world of the Dragon officially is 2022Elul14, which is the Laodicean FRC Passover (it has to be because salvation can only be delayed for legal reasons). Then the Kingdom of God is appointed/installed on 2022Elul16/Heshvan5 over Abraham (4th Zoar first fruits/Pentecost. then the Time of the End of Dnaiel12 runs from 2022Elul14 to 2023Elul14, from the end of the authority of Satan to the end of the seed of Satan..
The Titanic is sinking, but there are 8 billion people to direct into the lifeboats.21 For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it.
5 For, according to their wish, this fact escapes their notice,
that there were heavens [skies] from of old and an earth standing compactly
out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God;
6 and by those [means] the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water.
7 But by the same word the heavens [skies] and the earth that are now are stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly men (2 Peter 3).
Q6: Is faith and forgiveness really enough to enter the new world or do we need intensive knowledge of the bible?
A6: Faith in God is sufficient. You do not need to be Christian or indeed a part of any religion to be saved. You need to have faith in God and you need to obey your conscience under test. This applies to Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jews, Falun Gong devotees, Manchester United supporters, Communists, Capitalists, Environmentalists, Astronauts, Beggars, Bankers and Bar tenders alike,
But no atheist will enter into the kingdom of God.
6 Moreover, without
faith it is impossible to please [him] well,
for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he
becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him (Hebrews 11).
For the first commandment is to love God, and the second is to love your brother. So those who give loads of money to charity and who love their brothers sincerely from their heart but do not recognise God, are in denial. And are like children who represent that they taught themselves how to spell. Our love comes from God and from other people who were loved by God and from other people who were loved by other people who were loved by God etc etc. God invented love, when he was all by himself before he created Satan, his first angel. Do not be a love pirate. Give glory to the person who invented both love and your capability to give it and receive it.
However deep bible understandings make it easier to love God and our brothers. For the deeper you look into the bible the more love you see.
8 He that does not love has not come to know God, because God is love (1 John 4).
50 But he said to the woman: Your faith has saved you; go your way in peace. (Luke 7).
5 I desire to remind you, despite your knowing all things once for all time, that Jehovah, although he saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterwards destroyed those not showing faith (Jude 5).
Faith gets you into the kingdom of God, which lasts for 1,000 years. Lack of faith gets you into Hell for 1,000 years, But accurate knowledge gets you everlasting life...
3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ (John 17).
Q7: Why not make man (even with free will) follow the right path from birth. Why make us destroy/hate/corrupt/kill in the first place?
A7: The only way to learn not to burn yourself is to burn yourself.
God created man with free will so that we would see at first hand the damaging effects of sin so that we could learn for ourselves how to use that very same free will to make better choices about how to live with our brothers.
God originally created the angels with free will but some of them chose to leave God's administration and formed a rebellion. God created similarly free-willed humans to physicalise the effects of sin. Our behaviour therefore is an education not only to ourselves, but also to the angels and the demons who watch us and who help us to love and to be righteous or who try to corrupt us and incite us to hate. Our bodies are made with a propensity to sin. Our spirits, our hearts and minds are made with a propensity to love. These two are at war with each other. Are bodies are in the image of Satan, are spirits are in the image of God. Hearts and minds are more powerful than any brute force. Our spirits will win this war and conquer our bodies eventually. And in doing so they will learn the exceeding value of love and righteousness and they will learn that the inevitable consequence of sin in a society of free willed being is the destruction of that society. The point here is that Angels and humankind alike are learning from manís mistakes so that we may eventually make the enlightened choice to adopt the behaviour of a God, and thereby become a true son of God. See the following links for more details: Why did God create the Angels? Why did he create the universe? Why did he create us?
Q8: DeeJay Endless wrote:
These questions have caused my faith to be shaken quite well and I want to know if there is an answer in the bible that would help me. If so, could you help interpret it as well, the bible tends to be worded in a manner I find quite difficult to understand.
My concerns are:
- God, being a pure and good and just being, with infinite knowledge and power...creates man, an imperfect, flawed and dangerous creature. If God truly knows and sees all, would He not have seen our capabilities and knowing the suffering that many would endure, credited to their own fault...would He not have seen it more just and good to not create us?
If I were capable of knowing all and I knew that my creation would not only harm itself, but condemn itself to an eternity of suffering, would I rather not create that creature? Or better yet, would I create that creature, but deny it free will? For free will is the very essence of our misfortunes.
It does not seem right or good or just for our God to knowingly create us and allow us to damage and harm ourselves, in very great numbers. If this is the case, it would seem that either: He does not know all and created us within some boundaries of ignorance, or He created us and allows us to suffer. Both of which indicate an unjust and unloving, possibly cruel god.
- Gen 3:22 "the man has become one of us, to know good and evil;"
Would this line also indicate that God is not alone and has others have created other beings as well....would this not also indicate that God is as good as He is evil?
- Also, Lucifer, being in Gods presence...the presence of good and just and righteousness...becomes jealous of His power? Therefore, is cast out of Heaven into a fiery lake where he is allowed to rule over, temporarily and viciously, the earth and its people. How can an angel, in the perfect presence of God, become jealous? Would he not be satisfied in all ways. And if he did seek the throne of God, would God not just remove him from His kingdom...but in a manner that would not allow him to corrupt and hurt God's creations? (us)
- Finally, Job. Correct me if I am wrong, but did God not allow satan to torture Job? Why would a just and loving God allow one of his faithful and happy servants to be plagued and harmed by satan. Yes...he was given everything back 10 fold after it was all said and done, but was Job not content at the time? I don't think I would be very happy or more faithful if my family was stripped away from me and replaced bigger and 'better' later on. The old adage...if it ain't broke, don't fix it...comes to mind here.
Satan seemed to have been 'egging' God on concerning Job, even after God acknowledged that Job was a righteous man.
Any help at all would be greatly appreciated and I do apologize for the extensive questions. Thank you very much for any and all the help you can give.
A8: Hi DJE,
Thanks for such a logically posed question.
Yes God created us with free will. Yes that free will has resulted in death torture rape genocide and massive pain for billions of people over thousands of years.
True God gave us laws saying do not do any of those things. But he knew most of us would not listen to his laws. Furthermore we get terrible cancers and alzheimers and other disasterous things happening to our bodies which OK one could argue that God probably left the plants and herbs around for us to cure them and gave us the wit to fix these biological corruptions of our bodies, but we chose instead to use our wit to try and get more power and status than our brother. But God knew we would act like that having designed us to act like that in default mode but having given us the capability to overcome our basic default animal instincts with our spirits, our free will, which is after all in his image, so can rise above animal behaviour patterns.
So I agree entirely with the question you asked and it is a question anyone with faith must ask. Here is my answer...
First God created the angels. They were default neutral in behaviour. They were not born in sin, they did not have corrupting bodies. They were not predisposed to sin. They had no predisposition. They had free will like us but were not able to physically damage each other having spiritual bodies. By that I actually mean non light matter bodies which exist in dark matter we believe. Certainly they cannot cause each other any physical pain or disable each other. I do not think they can rape each other either. They are male and female like us. Since all creation has gender as a tutor to love. God who has perfect love has no gender.
So let me put it this way. He tried your idea. He tried that first. What it produced was Satan and a bunch of demons, as well as Michael and the angels of the holy spirit and the other angels who are neither demons nor in the holy spirit. They are sort of law abiding heavenly citizens.
Here is the trouble with the angels. You cannot truly reject bad until you have seen it a lot and actually done it a little. If when doing bad no one gets hurt it takes a long time to learn. The angels have been around for hundreds of thousands of years at least.
If you give your son free will then at some point he has to see and experience and do some bad as well as good in order that he learns for himself why bad is unsustainable and eventually leads to the destruction of a free willed society. I do not say that God realised this after he had created the silver spoon angels and then thought hey why don't I try some plastic spoon humans. He knew it all from the start and always intended to teach the angels through the humans, a lower life form. He delights in teaching higher life forms through lower life forms.
So to save time and to speed up the process for free willed beings to learn sustainable behaviour he introduced physical pain, hunger, murder, genocide, rape etc. in his MarkII brood - the human race. He also created us with a tendancy to sin so that we would go there immediately rather than taking ten thousand years before we stole a mars bar.
We are weak and vulnerable and stupid when compared to the angels in their uncorruptable bodies with minds that work much much faster than ours. But guess what? The more irritated the oyster the bigger the pearl. No angel ever got everlasting life before Satan killed Adam. They needed to see murder before they were given everlasting life. Michael was given everlasting life when he agreed to ransom Adam (i.e. to die as a human). He was the first angel to get it and all other angels get it through him as do humans.
So now here is the advantage of being human (as Paul said when I am weak then I am strong). When we hit someone we see the pain it causes. When we are selfish bastards and do not feed our brother we see his body waste away. When we kill someone we see the pain of their realitves, a pain that we cannot fix. We are like battle hardened veterans who have done the SAS training course in sin and then spent 70 years in the trenches. Angels are like people who watch war movies on the TV. Which one is going to learn about man's inhumanity to man the faster?
Which would you prefer 100 years of pain or 100,000 years of slow learning with no physical pain but shedloads of emotional pain? Many abused people will say that the emotional pain is worse than the physical pain.
We are the crack troops in the battle against sin. We are at war with sin in real time in a way the totally engrosses us and affects us.
Here is the good news. Adamic man is the only group that has to go through what we are going through. In the next system, we will have holographic replay of everything that happenned since Adam and before. So all the lessons of Hitler and Genghis Khan and Pol Pot etc can be watched at any time. Our children in the Kingdom of God will not have to go through sin to the level that we do in this system. They will learn from the hologrpahic videos of what happenned to us! In fact if Jesus is sin superman, then we are not far behind. Not because we resist sin completely as he did, but because we tried and we were in the game.
Now God did not ask us to suffer any more that he asked his son to suffer as far as death. Although many humans have experienced pain for a longer period of time than Michael did of course.
The short answer is that freedom is an expensive commodity and the pain we suffer is its price. God permits this because it is necessary in order that all of his sons are one day saved. He would not permit it if it were not necessary. You see 100,000 years did not fix the angels. Our pain is a vital and necessary lesson for them as well as for us. If you like, our pain fixes our elder brothers and one day will even fix Satan himself.
So why does he permit cancer you ask? Who has not had a relative die from it in a slow and painful death? How could such a loving God permit such torture through his design of our bodies? What was he thinking?
Well he was thinking this. My cousin died of a brain tumour. I watched her die. She had the best neurosurgeon in London (my Dad was a professor of surgery). He could not save her. I used to play the piano to her to soothe her as she contempleted her fate in the pain of her cancer. That was the downside. That was the price she paid. She is now asleep in the first death in an angelic body dreaming, but she will not remember her dreams until the lat minute when she is woken up - resurrected.
Now what good has that done? Well in a few years time she will hopefully be resurrected into the kingdom of God. It will then be explained to her possibly by me, or if not by any other priest or citizen of the kingdom, that cancer was permitted by God in order to teach mankind about the danger of corruption. Acting in a corrupt way is morally unsustainable. That means any society that permits corruption will ultimately destroy itself. Once she sees the parallel she will not have anything more to learn. She knows how one cancer cell from a mole on her skin can kill her whole body. She will not need any priest to teach her that corruption is ultimately terminal. She will know it for a fact having seen the results of biological DNA corruption.
So every physical pain teaches us about moral sustainability. It teaches us something that would take a hell of a lot longer to learn - if we could learn it at all, without that pain.
Now in the next 6 months mankind is going to almost wipe himself out during the Great Tribulation - which will be nuclear. God will step in and stop us doing it by 'cutting the days' short. Not sure exactly how that works. After that 50% of mankind is saved into an angelic ark and raptured and the other half is left down here. They will wipe themselves out. They will aggravate our planet to the point where it vomits them out just as Israel vomitted out the Jews when they sinned sufficiently. The earth will react with an extinction level volcanic event. God will not destroy the panet. Mankind will once and for all time prove that disobeying a simple set of rules deisgned to stop a free willed society from destroying itself is necessary or that society will indeed destroy itself.
That is the largest lesson of them all. It is not only a lesson for the 3 billion idiots who do it. It is a lesson for all angels and all humans who have ever lived. You see God has been saying for a long time that if you do not obey this minimum set of laws, you have no future. Now mankind is going to prove God correct for all creation by wiping himself out!
We, the faithful, will watch it it heavenly technicolour. It will not be something we want to watch. But it is something we must watch. It will give us a different kind of pain. As you know it is often worse to see your brother hurt than it is to be hurt yourself.
There was once a child born in Brazil who could feel no pain. By the time he was ten his whole body was mutilated and bent and broken and burnt. His mother begged the doctors to fix him so that he could feel pain and prayed to God that her son could feel pain. The angels are that boy. We are better off than them because we feel it and so we learn morality more immediately.
Of course if there was no resurrection then God would merely be a sadist. But there is a resurrection for everyone - eventually. For we are all connoisseurs of sin and a very few of us at present are connoisseurs of righteousness too. But both forms of information actually have value, high value. I mean we have probably shown the angels more sin in 6,000 years than they have seen in the 100,000 years before we turned up! That indeed is what God is farming in us - knowledge of Good and Bad. Now God will resurrect the 3 billion idiots into Hell, where they will stay for 1,000 years if they do not repent. We will go there and visit them in Hell and say to them: OK boys, where do you think you went wrong then?
Sorry about the lack of scriptures - they are all on the site in the various related understandings. It would take me too long and I am too tired.
Hope that helps.
Q9: If I was responsible for the welfare of an errant child, I would want to make my written instructions as clear as possible. This appears not to be the case as the Churches all disagree on what they mean. How can the child be held responsible for not acting in accordance with his parent's wishes, when the wishes are so open to interpretation?
A9: It all depends upon what the purpose of the instructions is. If the purpose is to teach every child how to behave in a perfect manner then I would agree the bible fails to achieve that purpose. But the scripture says:
So the bible has two purposes (at least). One is to reveal God and his plan for salvation only to those with insight and the other is to hide it from those who are wicked. The reason for this is that telling mankind now the precise set of rules that each government should obey in each country would help but would not fix the problems we have because many people would exercise their free will and choose not to obey those rules. In order to create a perfect society of free willed beings you need a prefect set of rules and you need citizens who have chosen to give those rules a chance to work. That society is the kingdom of God. So the bible selects for people who are interested in a morally sustainable future and against people who are interested only in their personal future.
In other words it selects for empathetic people and proposes win win legislation which benefits all people in a free willed society rather than win lose legislation which benefits one group at the expense of another. Then of course there is lose lose legislation which benefits nobody! It appeals to people who love their brother as themselves or if they cannot do that at least recognise that such a society would be better than the one we presently have. Then it reveals to them what sustainable morality is. It does not reveal anything to anempathetic people. So it repels and attracts depending upon your state of heart. Of course selfishness is not actually in ones self interest in the longer term - for we all reap what we sow - but more people either do not see that or if they do see it they cannot act upon it.
This is why it is written in a coded and symbolic way. The code is effectively a timed releasing mechanism for correct interpretation to be disseminated and a mirror of the personality of the interpreter and a selector of those who will be saved. The code dictates at what time information is released because it prevents correct interpretation of a scripture until the time God wishes that truth to be known.
Many churches interpret scripture incorrectly because they seek to control through fear rather than to illuminate through love. The bible is deliberately written to be open to both. In fact this is how false churches will become bundles of weeds. They trap their adherents in idolatry of their priests.
Q10: Hi Gordon
I see you as a very intelligent chap, a deep thinker and a man that sticks to his guns come what may. So even if I can't believe what you say in this email I think it is worth inspection because you aren't stupid, far from it, in fact.
There must have been a time, many years ago now, that you had a eureka moment when you realised you had "stumbled" across the biblecode that is the basis of your whole "thesis"(for want of a better word).
What was the event or series of events that absolutely proved it to you, without a shadow of a doubt?
Can you corroborate anything you have said, so far, with real world events?
P.S. I ask this because as you know I do not believe that the bible is true, purely because it is non-provable. If there was a side issue to the bible that was provable and consistent with real world ties maybe I would see it in a different light. Plus, I know you aren't stupid but you could still be mad. One of us is!
A10 Hi Geoff,
Yes there was a Eureka moment and it is very much along the lines of your email. We are both logical intelligent hopefully fairly dispassionate and sane.
What happened was this. I looked at the perfection of the solar system as described by Newton's laws. We could land a man on the moon using those laws, which laws were formulated by a man who lived in the 16th century and never himself got more than a few feet of the ground.
Then I looked at the bible and failed to see its perfection. It was a stupid book. It was full of repetition and seemingly irrelevant detail and it missed out the main points consistently. It was a history book with no dates. Who writes one of those?
Then it dawned on me that the book must be every bit as perfect as our DNA or the laws of nature or physics. Because Newton had shown me the sort of perfection which God is capable of. I realised that the bible must be God laws of morality rather than Motion and it must therefore be every bit as perfect as Newton had shown God's laws to be. But that perfection must be hidden or coded.
What I DID NOT KNOW was that Newton reached a similar conclusion himself 400 years earlier. And the yes, he almost went mad, when he realised that the trinity was a false and illogical doctrine and that he was perhaps the only human being worshipping one God rather than a 3 in 1 God
In every single page of the bible God asks the reader the same question: Do you think I am an idiot?
And almost every reader answers that question with a resounding YES.
But the idiot is not God. It is the reader. For God is an actor. Let me give you a clear example. It is covered in intro7. Please read that webpage. It will answer your question I think.
So Cain is a crop farmer and Abel is a sheep farmer.
So Cain brings along some crops for his sacrifice and Abel brings along some sheep.
The accounts then says that God rejected Cain's offering and accepted Abel's offering. Cain then Got jealous and killed his brother.
Nobody - BUT nobody understands what is going on here. The account is written AS IF God made a completely biased and prejudice and partial judgement in favour of Abel for no good reason at all.
The account is deliberately written in that way. It is written like that so people who do not understand the law of Moses will reject God as whimsical favouritist pig.
Let me explain what is going on. Under the law of Moses nobody was ever asked to bring along whatever they did for a living. Or to bring along whatever they feel like offering to God. Every sacrifice was prescribed precisely as to the animal, the day of offering, how it should be offered etc etc etc.
So really the account is asking the reader: Do you understand what a sacrifice to God is?
And nobody does. For a sacrifice to God is not bringing along your latest screenplay or musical masterpiece in order to receive your Oscar nomination or Grammy award. No it is bringing along something which represents the sacrifices made by various loving angels and non adamic humans who have ransomed or will ransom salvation covenant mediators and give you a second body in the Kingdom of God. That is what sacrifices to God are about. The all prefigure the real sacrifices made which save us from adamic death or rescue us out of it.
Now the account could easily have said the following:
And God rejected Cain's sacrifice BECAUSE he did not bring along what was stipulated by God for that occasion - whereas Abel did bring along what was stipulated - which was some sheep. But it is deliberately not written like that in order that Richard Dawkins and the likes can write God off as a biased and partial judge.
It is written to throw the faithless off the scent. But has just enough to keep the faithful digging! In fact this whole world works like that really.
Question: To: firstname.lastname@example.org
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 3:32 AM
Subject: the precise day of the first nuclear terrorist bomb
After reviewing your website as to a nuclear bomb hitting Manhattan and changing this date several times because it has not happened. Have you thought to realize that your bible code is just pure speculation?
If youíre basing this on I Kings 18 as to Elijah having his servant checking for a cloud, keep in mind the context of this scripture was because there had been a famine in the land for years. Elijah killed the Prophets of Baal. And then sent his servant to ďgo look toward the seaĒ for evidence of rain. But when Elijah bent to the ground and put his face between his knees, he was praying to GOD for rain, not kissing his but goodbye. This is also referenced in James 5:18 that he was praying for rain.
I believe you are taking this scripture entirely out of context and trying to use it for whatever agenda you have. Again I Kings 18 was a literal event in history. You are grossly taking this scripture out of context to say a nuclear bomb is going to hit New York on a specific date.
Also on your website you give specific dates for the rapture of the church. This is where I know your website is inaccurate and false. I say this because Jesus doesnít even know when this is going to happen. Only GOD the father knows when the rapture will occur. This wonít be found in any bible code because Jesus is the WORD, and the WORD is the BIBLE. If Jesus doesnít know when this will happen, it wonít be in any bible code.
You may think Iím just a skeptical lost sinner. This couldnít be further from the truth. I believe you are misled and are misleading a lot of other people out there, and for that you will have their blood on your hands on the final judgment day.
My question to you, is that with 7 wrong dates now for the nuclear bomb to hit New York, when this doesnít happen by August 1st, what will your excuse be then? What will you re-calculate to give you a new date to say this will happen, and when it doesnít happen then what excuse will you give etc. etc. etc?
Answer: Hi Mike,
Please allow me to introduce a concept that appears alien to nearly all Christians and Jews and Muslims actually. The concept is doctrinal repentance. It is the antithesis of Papal infallibility. Christians must repent from sin, and mistaken actions. We all know that. But no one appears to make allowance for repentance from mistaken interpretations. Such repentance is doctrinal repentance. It is what this church is all about.
Most Christian churches are fossilized and dead the day that they are born, since they formulate their belief statement, their creed, their dogma, on day one, and then falsely claim some kind of divine perfection to that dogma. So the only time serious bible research occurs in that church is before it is set up.
The advantage of such a position is that those churches never look like turkeys as you evidently feel that we do. The disadvantage is that the churches are all dead and therefore false, for Jesus said: Keep on seeking, asking and knocking. And he promised to those who do that it will be found, answered and opened.
So what you are seeing in the trade mark of a true church. Living doctrine, honest admission of mistakes and then doctrinal repentance.
All of our understandings have come from this methodology. Indeed all advances made in any academic subject work in this way. But people throw away logic when they join a church or study God's book.
So we will adapt our understandings to a new date if we are wrong on August 1st, and if we can see how to do that. If we cannot see how to do that we will discard our 1 Kings 18 interpretation as wrong, if that is our conclusion.
Why do you not permit bible researchers the same latitude as everyone permits academic researchers? In research 9 out of 10 ideas are wrong, but the 10th idea might just be a laser or a microchip or a light bulb.
We are serving God with our whole minds, and God willing, we will continue so to do.
I do not think that you are a skeptical lost sinner. I think you are a skeptical faithful sinner, whereas I am a less skeptical faithful sinner.
It is true that Elijah prayed for rain (James 5:7) and it rained after 42 months, the scriptures declare it. But the scriptures are not just dead history. They are living prophecy. And all the little details of the behaviour of God's great prophets are not just irrelevant stuffing of a dry bible story. The are prophetic and powerful since the good book says:
12 For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints and [their] marrow, and [is] able to discern thoughts and intentions of [the] heart (Hebrews 4).
Now we do not just state this because we would like it to be true. We have done most of the Greek noun counts of gospel stories to prove it - see U49.
We have sent videos explaining these noun counts to 200 academic statisticians. But few people can accept that the bible might be an academic text book, every bit a perfect as nature itself. They believe that Isaac Newton or that Stephen Hawking can write an academic text book, but they do not believe that God can.
So yes Elijah prayed, but the normal way to do that is to kneel down on your knees and possibly to bend forward with your face to the earth. It is not to stick your head between your knees and kiss your butt goodbye! Let me ask you this question.
Why does the bible describe how Elijah prayed? What use is that in the literal meaning? Do you think God listens more closely if you stick your head between your knees when you pray? And if so why did Jesus never pray like that? Why, when the disciples asked Jesus how to pray did he not say: Well step 1 is to crouch down and to stick your head between your knees?
The physical actions of a prophet have prophetic significance. And that significance is nuclear in our understanding. Perhaps we are wrong about the interpretation, it is possible. But we are not wrong about its greater significance.
Am I making sense?
P.S. 'Concerning that day or hour no one has seen' is the correct literal translation of Matthew 24:36. Check it in a good Greek Interlinear bible. It is not a prohibition on the foreknowledge of Armageddon or the rapture etc. - see www.truebiblecode.com/understanding237.html
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: get help
I have to say, i find your website absolutely hilarious, never before have I seen anyone make as many wrong predictions and then try to justify how and why they were wrong every time.
You are proof absolute that there is no God because if there was he'd have found someone more competent to interpret his word.
Answer: Hi Dru,
I like your reasoning.
You are quite right. It has never happened before in your lifetime in the field of bible research. But it happens in every other field of research all the time. That is how research progresses. Edison tried 6,000 filament and light bulb combinations before he produced the physical light bulb. If he, like you, had written off incandescent light at the 8th attempt, then you would probably be sitting in physical darkness right now as well as definitely sitting in spiritual darkness. I come from a race of people who beat the English at their 8th attempt.
The measure of a true Christian is not the number of his mistakes, but the speed and sincerity of his acceptance of those mistakes and repentance from them. How are we doing so far? Furthermore this is also the measure of any good academic researcher actually. But no one will credit the bible with being an academic text book.
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Robert the Bruce!
No offense Gordon but I am beginning to think that you are delusional. Have you consulted with a psychiatrists or psychoanalyst?
Nice to hear from you. But why would my noticing a common factor between Robert the Bruce who tried 8 times to beat the English and succeeded the 8th time and Elijah who tried 8 times to send his attendant to see a cloud and succeeded the 8th time, make me delusional?
Of course I accept that in claiming to be the last Elijah I open myself up to accusation of being delusional yes. But I claim it as a result of carefully researched scriptural proof. The JWs likewise claim to be the Faithful Slave based upon scripture. Are they delusional as a group? Any Christian who believes he has authority from God could be accused of being delusional if you do not believe God gives anyone authority. But if God does give authority and you do not believe, then you would be deluded.
Yes the LWs make interpretational mistakes. But we admit them and move on. That is the essence of rationality. Whereas 1 billion people who follow an infallible pope, who killed Galileo for proposing that the earth went round the Sun are surely deluded? And 6 million who follow a 'faithful slave' class who will never as a group go wrong according to their doctrine are likewise deluded and brainwashed. The faithful slave joined the UN, they rode the Beast as a part of the Harlot, that was 'going wrong'. We all make mistakes. It is human.
If I do not win this interpretational competition then my credibility as an Elijah would be damaged only if someone else actually wins it. For if no one wins it in this time period then the competition has no greater meaning for today and I have been involved in a wild goose chase with no relevance whatsoever. But I do not believe that 1 Kings 18 has no greater meaning for today. The code shows us that it has two greater meanings, since it has a double designation 'Elijah, the prophet'. And normally these two greater meanings fall one in each of the two presences of the Christ. We are now in his second presence as I assume you are aware. That is why I am still trying to get it right.
But you surely have to accept that when I first wrote to the Watchtower on 2006Iyyar1 (April 29th) the following was the case...
 UN had no trouble with its headship over nations and militaries.
 Around 50 people were being killed per day in Iraq
 There was no war between Israel and Lebanon
 There was no war between Israel and Gaza
 The UN has not been bombed by Israel
 The UN offices in Beirut had not been attacked by angry Lebanese
 Al Quaeda had said they were pretty much ready for their next US terror attack and Bin Laden offered to make peace if the coalition were to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
 The evangelicals were not saying that WWIII had begun and that this could be the Great Tribulation and that they expected things to go nuclear
Today the situation is...
 The UN have lost their headship over Israel and are seen as impotent even when their own offices are bombed
 Around 100 people per day are being killed in Iraq which is really in a full scale civil war (because only 40 people are killed per day in Lebanon which is certainly in a war)
 Israel and Lebanon are at war.
 Israel and Gaza are at war.
 Israel has bombed the UN observers out of South Lebanon
 The UN offices in Beirut have been attacked by angry Lebanese.
 Al Quaeda have said that they will not sit by and watch their Muslim brothers being slaughtered.
 The evangelicals are now saying that WWIII may have begun and that this could be the Great Tribulation and that they expect things to go nuclear.
Now we interpretationally prophesied that the UN would be nuked and that the image of the beast would lose its second head in Tammuz (we thought due to the nuke) and that the day of Jehovah would start and that the Watchtower would be destroyed as a result.
Well the UN has presently lost its headship and that occurred in Tammuz. And the day of Jehovah looks like either it has started or if it starts with a nuclear bomb then it looks close. And Bin Laden is presently having his bluff called by the US. I mean if he has anything in place, now would be the time for him to set it off, so that he can claim to be supporting his Muslim brothers. [All these were coincidence, the day of Jehovah does not start until 2008Nisan, and the image of the beast, the UNPBC, did not have any headship over the UN in 2006Tammuz - ed].
So we are plainly in the ball park here. We just have not got the touch down yet.
I personally did not start all this nuclear warning stuff off in the LWs. Other people in the church wanted me to consider the account of Jonah which I have always hated because it is so depressing. I wanted to continue with my 227 Greek noun counts of the Gospels which prove the code, but which no one makes the effort to follow. But the church was correct. This nuclear information is there. It is just hard to piece it all together.
I think you mistake dogged persistence for delusion!
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:38 AM
Subject: Utter Turkeys
What can I say? I find myself on your site from time to time checking the latest wild prediction. I have always been fascinated by stuff like this.
But you guys look like utter turkeys. You really are gambling with your own credibility, and losing! And in doing so you hurt yourselves. I really don't think the future is man's to know. If God wanted us to know these things would He have encoded these messages so cleverly in the Bible that dedicated Bible scholars cannot even get the dates right? What good is the warning then? Don't you think the warnings would have been as plain as the bible stories, or even to a lesser extent, Revelations? Why so hidden?
Because you guys are chasing shadows. I'm sorry to say. Why not just stick with getting out the message of Salvation? Leave the predictions to the National
Answer: Hi Sal,
Good question. Why has God made it so hard that we can hardly understand it?
Here is another one.
Why is cancer so difficult to cure that 1/3rd of westerners still die from it?
Answer: In the sweat of your brow you will eat bread.
He sets these tasks at the limit of our intelligence, not beyond our intelligence. Perhaps if a few more people were helping us, we would get there more quickly. But as surely as we have sequenced the genetic code of man, not an easy job, we are fully capable as a race of decoding the bible.
The difference is, thousands of scientists with a budget of billions worked on the former and 21 people with a budget of nothing worked on the latter. The irony is that decoding the bible is far more useful to mankind than decoding our DNA.
The bible is our moral DNA and is our future. Everlasting life comes from the scriptures not gene therapy.
It is not God's fault. It is our fault. Not so much the fault of the LWs, but the focus of the world is wrong. And I fear that it will take a correct nuclear prediction from us to change it.
You think we look like turkeys because we struggle to get this. And we do. But it is the rest of mankind who watch us struggle and do absolutely nothing to help who are the real turkeys.
Question: To: email@example.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:09 AM
Subject: your nuke bombs
Get a real life Your Biblical bullshit is so wrong! I was a JW for 25 years They are wrong and so are you The cloud from the sea was a rain cloud . They're was a drought in the land and it brought rain Where the hell did you get a nuke bomb from? After 8 wrong attempts did you think that you might be wrong?
Answer: Hi Bob,
Yes you describe the literal meaning of the account very well, James tells us that he prayed and then it rained. But1 Kings 18 has a greater meaning that applies today just as Isaiah 2 does in the final part of the days and Acts 2 in the last days.
The bible is a living prophecy book not a dead history book. Who cares how many jars of water Elijah poured over the bull? Who cares how many prophets of Baal danced around the altar? Who cares how many prophets of Jezebel did not dance around the altar? It is all irrelevant detail unless there is a greater meaning. But Paul tells us that all scripture is alive and exerts power. So there must be a greater meaning. Furthermore we have established the rules for this greater meaning and proved by noun counting that a code exists to help us to get that meaning
Yes we might be wrong. We do not believe in Papal infallibility. But the greater meaning is not a prophecy about a rain cloud.
Question: To: firstname.lastname@example.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:38 PM
Subject: I believe you are FDS 4
I have been following your website for about 18 months now. I've read a lot
of this spiritual food and it has encouraged me many times. I also believe
in the 2008 predictions. They are so accurate, that my reasoning is that it
has to come from Jehovah.
As time goes by, however, I'm having a mixture of fealings over it. The
calculations are impressive, but for Armageddon to happen in 2008, there
still has to happen quite a lot of things. Since time is running out ( less
than a two year countdown) without a big turning-point happening, it seems a
bit unrealistic sometimes, that all these major events, will have to occur
in nearly two years. ( I mean things such as the forming of the great crowd,
the collapse of the watchtower, nuclear warfare, the baptism of hundreds of
millions into the LW's, the destruction of all false religion etc)
I know there's not really a question posted here, but I would still
appreciate some reaction. I would like to know what your thoughts on this
Keep up with the good work and thanks in advance from your brother Steven
Answer: Hi Stefan,
Well you could be
the first LW in Holland!
Yes it must come from
Jehovah. The true God would not give us all these wonderful understandings and
then raise up another mountain in the final part of the days. The final part of
the days of the Great Tribulation that is.
We have the date of the
end, we have precession of the true churches, we have the reality that the law
was a shadow of, we have all the 24 salvation covenants, we have the bible code
and the 2 noun counts, we have the very beauty and wisdom of much of God's plan
and his law.
Time is running out but
once things go nuclear many people would be amazed if the system can last
another 18 months after that!!!
22 In fact, unless those
days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones
those days will be cut short (Matthew 24).
The days being cut short
are the days of the Great Tribulation. They are cut short not from the
Armageddon end, which is a fixed date, being 6,000 years after Adam's sin. But
they can be cut short from the 2004Elul14 end. The Great Tribulation does not become really great
until 2007Heshvan6, the start of the last year before the rapture [corrected].
Believe me once that day
starts, we will wish it hadn't! If things had gone nuclear in
2004Elul, we would all be dead by now and no flesh would then be saved. God has
done us a favour in cutting short the length of the
Question: From: Mike Stortz
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 5:01 PM
Subject: Your Predictions
As of this writing, you have made eleven failed predictions. Is there an upper limit on the number of predictions that you plan to make?
I assume that you feel that even after eleven failed predictions, if you get it right on the twelfth, you will be due some credit. If, on the other hand, you are not correct until the twentieth, or one hundredth prediction, would you still feel that your work was valid?
Answer: On 8/28/06, The Lords' Witnesses <email@example.com> wrote:
Firstly any sincere work for God is valid in the sense that it is an expression of faith and it is following the commandments of Jesus to keep on seeking etc. Secondly research is not about counting mistakes, it is about learning from them.
The chances of predicting the date and location of the first nuclear terrorist bomb correctly must be lower than 1 in 20,000. Many people think it will never happen at all. But if you say well there is a 50% chance of it happening somewhere in the world in the next 5 years, which is a fairly radical assessment in security terms, then the chances of getting the date right are 1 in 4,000. If you say that the chances of the UN in Manhattan being the target are 1 in 10, then the chance of us getting both the place and the date is 1 in 40,000.
So if we were to make 1000 mistakes and get it right on attempt 1001 we would still have done something with a probability of 1 in 40 which would mean that there is a 97.5% chance that is was not a fluke.
People cannot complain that our ideas are preposterous (not that you have) and then say if you get enough attempts you will get it anyway. What we are doing is the equivalent of prophesying the number of grains of sand in a Jam Jar. If we get both the place and the date right even with 100 attempts we have pulled off a 1 in 400 shot. That would mean there is a 99.75% chance that there is a God the bible is in a code and we have decoded it. But I can guarantee that very few people will see it like that. People are great at judging track records or status or packaging, but hopeless at judging content.
But despite our crummy track record so far, we do not make predictions for the hell of it. If we run out of options we will say, that we have run out of options and we have a fundamental flaw in this understanding which we are unable to fix. That will almost certainly impact other understandings we have. But incredibly at this point we are not in that position despite many many interlocking interpretations.
But I run a software company when I am not decoding the bible, and our software had 900 bugs in it. all of which we have fixed. In fact we give a software bug guarantee. If you find a bug we will fix it or refund you, if we cannot. Microsoft does not do that. Code has bugs. Microsoft still has loads of them. Windows NT took 1500 builds before it reached service pack 1.
If we get this date right it means all our lines of code, all our scriptural interpretations that this thing is built on are correct. That is a tall order. But we have done it before and we will do it again, God willing.
I nearly threw my Doctorate program in the bin after 2 weeks of watching it crash on the mainframe. Then I discovered a missing comma. I put the comma in and it worked beautifully. In this case we have found that one of the key chronological understandings of the church, the date of my sanctification and the date of the making of the second new covenant which I claim to mediate, was wrong. We found that from the 11th mistake. That mistake lead us to a much better understanding of how to celebrate this covenant, in fact it is the greater festival of booths. When you learn something that is an obvious advance in church understanding from a mistake you are getting somewhere.
Question: To: firstname.lastname@example.org
To: The Lords' Witnesses
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Your Predictions
I'm a software developer, too, so I know the frustration of which you speak. I have learned not to to say "the software can't possibly be doing that" when reading bug reports.
In programming, we don't get an 'E' for Effort, though, and I don't agree that "any sincere work for God is valid". There's been way too much of that kind of thing through history. What is the road to Hell paved with?
You are correct that even if it were to take you 1,000 attempts, it would still be a statistical feat to predict a specific time and place for such an attack, although I will note that not all targets are equally probable... some Walmart in Ohio is much less likely to be hit than an important target like the U.N.
The problem comes when we consider that you are trying to demonstrate a principle. Suppose you were trying to cure cancer. If 999 of your patients died (well, you would have trouble getting more volunteers at that point, but...), but the 1,000th lived, you could claim with validity that the chances of that last patient experiencing remission on their own is remote, and that your treatment was responsible. But this would not convince many people to seek you out! Only if, armed with the knowledge of how you successfully treated that last patient, you could then consistently and successfully treat new patients, would your claims be credible.
In other words, good luck with your research, but realize that a single success will not validate your methodology.
Answer: Hi Mike,
I wish academic people would just study our noun counts at www.truebiblecode.com/understanding49.html then they would not need any sign such as we are attempting. I wish faithful people would consider our doctrine and see how it reflects God's love and is streets ahead of any other religious organisation, then they would not need a sign either. I mean what are the chances of counting the nouns acting as nouns in the first 227 gospel accounts and having them obey 2 simple rules in each case?
But if we get this UN attack correct after say a dozen attempts, that is not the same as having one person out of 1000 survive cancer, since that happens all the time anyway. No one has ever correctly predicted a nuclear terrorist attack yet, because no such attack has ever happened. And for all any member of the general public knows, it may never happen at all. Whereas people have been dying of cancer for centuries regrettably. One correct hit of such long odds is enough to prove God and our decoding to a very very high probability. The only way we could get this right without our success being due to our symbolic decoding is if either we are very lucky or we have inside terrorist/security info or we have some type of heavenly help (be it angelic or demonic).
So as long as I am not Bin Laden's cousin, a success means all the lines of code (or decoding) are correct to a very high probability surely?
Some of these answers are incorrect, we have improved our doctrine since they were given. We now believe that Jesus is a God to be worshipped like Jehovah. He became such when he fixed both the heavens and the earth by his sacrifice. The name above every other name named that he was given at his resurrection was: Jehovah, the family name of God. But he is not Jehovah, he is the angel Michael a 42nd generation angel who took the firstborn angelic rights from Satan who was physically the firstborn angel. Also Hell is a prison for spirits wherein each spirit is denied a body, angelic or human. Hell is the second death. The first death is unconscious 'sleep' in a temporary angelic body.
We used to get a lot of abusive questions before 911. The abuse pretty much all stopped after that tragedy.
numbers and links referred to have been updated and some spelling has been
Good afternoon, I've received a fax from yourselves re the bible code.
A question, it states on your sheet under 'Some of the new things the decoding reveals':- The Date of the second coming of Christ. Er...does not the Word say, "No one knows but the Father" - Matthew 24:36.
Also the parable re Faithful and Wise Servant in Matthew 24, gives the illustration that one would get caught up and the other left behind, and that we must be 'ever watchful' because we do not know the Day or hour. I'm neither disagreeing or agreeing with your findings but I do believe upon the Authority of the Word of God accompanied by the Power and Truth of the Holy Spirit, who is the revealer of truth - John 14-16, 1 John 4.
You may e-mail me at .....
P.S. Do you believe the revealing of these codes is linked to the 'book to be revealed in the Last Days' in Daniel ?
Thanks for an opened minded and rational response to our flyer and website.
As regards Matthew 24:36 the Greek word translated 'knows' is 'oiden', which literally means 'has seen'. It is in the 3rd person singular perfect tense. A tense used to convey completed actions in the past. The literal translation of Matthew 24:36 is:
No one has seen but the Father
A statement in the past tense cannot be a prohibition on future knowledge.
Jesus did not know when Armageddon would be on 33Nisan11 when he made this statement 3 days before the last supper was held, because nobody knows the date of their wedding before they have got engaged. Jesus made his engagement proposal to the 11 apostles, the new covenant saints, his wife to be on 33Nisan14 and he gets married at the marriage of the lamb Revelation 19:
Let us rejoice and be overjoyed and let us give him the glory because the marriage of the lamb has arrived and his wife has prepared herself....Happy are those invited to the evening meal of the lambs marriage (Revelation 19:7-9)
Members of the new covenant are these happy ones, the evening meal of the lamb's marriage is the coronation of the kings in the kingdom of God, on 2008Nisan14, the last day of this system. See
As regards the book to be revealed in the last days, referred to in Daniel. It is the bible itself. It is of course a decoding of Daniel but the bible has one editor Jesus Christ, one publisher God, and although written by many journalists, it is all in the same code. So the decoding applies not only to
Daniel but also to the writings of Moses etc.
For the decoded meanings of Daniel have a look at the relevant sections in www.bibledecoded.com As regards the Faithful slave, the FDS, there are several as you point out. These are covered in section  As regards the knowing of the day and the hour, the day is the day of Jesus' presence, which is the day of the existence of the temple of his body on earth. There have been two such presences, the first from 2Tishri10 BC when he was born until 119Elul when the last of the first century new covenant saints died, and the second presence was from 1884Tishri until 2004Elul, when the last of the second presence new covenant saints die. Jesus is present through the presence of his fiance, his body. He is present in a body which is not his,
not owned by him until his marriage. This is how he left us, he ascended in Acts 1 in someone elseís body, and he returns in the same way.
This Jesus who was received up from you into the sky, will thus come in the same manner as you beheld him going into the sky (Acts 1:11)
It is the new covenant saints who are resurrected into heaven or received into the sky. They are now all chosen. A new earthly covenant has now been made (see section 4 Ė now section ). I am the messenger of that covenant. It is the covenant of Keturah, Abraham's third wife [ed - no the covenant of Rachel, Jacob's 2nd wife].
As regards the hour, well there are several, in fact 12 in a day. Jesus comes twice in each presence (see section ). The whole timetable of these things is in section (now in section ). He comes 12 times in all, and that is a deep understanding, but there are 12 hours in the day according to our master:
There are 12 hours of daylight are there not? (John 11:9)
Regards blessings and thanks
Have been the recipient of your fax regarding the so called "decoding" (??) of the Bible.
I'm sure I won't be the first to tell you that the futile attempts to unravel what is not written in Scripture will actually yield nothing. Please take the time to read the whole of Matthew 24 and specifically verses 36-44 (NOBODY knows, or ever will know the hour!). The Bible was never written to be decoded!!!
God left us his word in the Bible that we might know all we need to know about this life and the little he chose to reveal to us about the next. Also that through it we may come to know the Lord Jesus Christ personally and have eternal life through his shed blood on Calvary. From Genesis to Revelation, the theme is Jesus.
Rather than tying yourselves up in knots with "codes" why not seek the Lord of all creation, the Lord Jesus Christ (John 3 v 16) and be saved. That is THE most important consideration in your life right now which will have eternal consequences, not codes! Don't be blinded by Satan and his clever schemes to steer you away from the love of the Almighty God of all creation.
Read: 1 John 4 v 9, 1 John 1 v 9. John 14 v 6.
ANSWER: Dear Know it all,
I do not feel worthy to communicate with a man who has actually read 8 consecutive verses of Matthew 24. Ever heard of the Greek word 'oiden'?
How could I have missed that Jesus can just give me everlasting life, I really don't know?
Sorry to have troubled your loving relationship with my father with my Satanic scheme to decode the bible. Perhaps you would like me to burn myself at the stake like Tyndale was (actually Wycliffe was burned, Tyndale was exumed by the Pope Ė Ed.)
it from latin into English. If only you had been around to tell Isaac Newton how
futile his attempts were to understand God's creative Codes, or how satanic
Crick, and Watsons work at decoding the human Genome was, another of my Father's
If you knew who Jesus was at all, you would know that he was not the Lord of all creation. And you would repent from your blasphemy. For YHWH is that one and Jesus is his son and YHWH is the God of Jesus, whom you do not know. Isaac Newton knew this 3 centuries ago.
RESPONSE: You seem a little rattled - humble apologies? - I think this is what you need to do before God. Enough said.
QUESTION3: I received your fax in regards to your up and coming event on 4th April to discuss the bible. This event does look very interesting but I would appreciate if you can email me with more information about your background e.g. who you are, do you belong to any denomination and so on. I wait for your reply.
ANSWER: Hi Samantha,
Thanks for your interest, here are my particulars, but please make an assessment not of me but of my work on www.bibledecoded.com
As regards my letters of recommendation, I am Gordon Ritchie, I belong to the Lords' Witnesses, a religion that has only just started. It's first meeting was March 21st 2000! I have a degree in pure maths from Cambridge, and I have spent the last 8 years wrestling with the bible code. The first
talk will be on the code itself. I do not have the backing of any organised religion. But if I have decoded the bible then I do have the backing of God. If you come on Tuesday you can decide for yourself! We will have some CD copies of the site at the meeting.
Regards & blessings,
QUESTION4: I am writing to express my disappointment at the fax I received at work concerning your 'date setting'. If you are calling yourselves witnesses for God you surely know that the Bible categorically states that we will not know the hour nor the day of the Lords coming. As a born-again Christian I have heard many 'predictions' and so called 'prpphecies' of the end times. Our duty
is not to set a date, as it is immaterial, our job is to spread the good news, the news of salvation and of love. Yes we know that the end times are coming soon, very soon, but scaremongering is not a way to fill Heaven. Please do send any further correspondence to 0207 410 4020.
Please please please get a Greek new testament bible, and read Matthew 24:36.
You will see that the exact translation is:
Concerning that day and hour no one has seen.
The Greek word is 'oiden' it means 'he has seen' it is the 3rd person singular perfect tense of 'Eido' which means 'I see; like the latin 'Video'. A sentence in the past tense, cannot be a prohibition of future knowledge. The perfect tense is used for completed actions in the past.
The reason that Jesus said what he did on Nisan11 33CE was that no man knows the day or hour of his wedding, before he has gotten engaged. Jesus made his marriage proposal 3 days later on Nisan14 33CE the night before Good Friday, at the Last Supper. The new covenant saints, which you claim to be a member of by virtue of being born again, are his bride. The marriage of the lamb (Revelation 19) is the start of the Kingdom of God.
Now having made his marriage proposal Jesus was free and so are we to know when this date will be. Please tell me how do you expect to get to the church on time, if you refuse to listen to the messenger of the date of your wedding?
If you read Mark 13, you will find the same word 'oiden' again in the past tense, meaning no one has seen.
I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiment that scaremongering is not the way to fill heaven. The Catholics have been monsters suggesting that you will burn in hell if you do not join them. But as it happens the heavenly calling ended in 1955 in the Hebrew month of Tishri (September/October).
You have got be at least 20 years old to be baptised in holy spirit, this can be seen from the principles of the Law. Every one over 20 years old was killed in the wilderness before the Jews entered the promised land. Every one under 20 was not held responsible, and was rebaptised when they crossed over the Jordan at Jericho (Joshua 1,2,3,4).
So unless you are now 65 which I doubt, you are not born again. If you are please excuse my presumptuousness.
Just as wicked as scaring people into the Kingdom of God, is deceiving them with false hopes such as. Just accept Jesus into your heart, click here and God will download everlasting life into your PC.
Faith need works as you know. If you find that we are correct, then please accept our invitation to be a citizen of the Kingdom of God on earth. Or if you would like to be a bride who knows when her own wedding actually is please come to the Cumberland Suite of the Cumberland Hotel in Great Cumberland Place, Marble Arch at 7:30 on Tuesday 25th April.
Regards and blessings
QUESTION5: I am appalled to have received this on my fax machine....I and my children are not Christian and we do not appreciate receiving such unrequested drivel on our fax machine. I would like to know how you get your fax numbers. Please let me know immediately as I would like to get my name/number off of your source.
ANSWER: Dear appalled of aol.com
It must be awful for you when you receive a TV advert completely unsolicited using up all your electricity which you pay for. And then you ring them up to say please do not advertise Coca Cola to me because I drink Pepsi Cola and I therefore do not want any Coke adverts and they aren't prepared to stop. What do you do?
Direct advertising is JUNK? and indirect adverts are good?? really. Please do not be fooled by the TV and Radio advertising propaganda machine. All adverts are unsolicited uses of your time and materials. They should not be criminal, they are a necessary part of commerce and of religion. But Media companies have a lot of power, and so come on lets just put everybody in prison who does not advertise on NBC. Because their adverts are great and the rest are appalling.
We do believe that any individual should have the right to stop all adverts, if he/she does not want them, but likewise we have the right to send them in the first place until you ask us to desist. It's a free speech issue, first amendment.
We do not give a toll free number because we are not a commercial outfit, we are a charity. We do not make any money by sending faxes advertising for God, so we are not in a position to pay for deletions, but we hope to open peoples eyes.
So we, unlike all TV and Radio stations, will honour your rights and stop advertising to you and I confirm that your fax number is removed. But let me make one final plug...
A final unsolicited and unabashed usage of your time and materials... Real rights and real freedom, real love and real justice, real understanding of the relative importance of issues affecting men and women and an everlasting amount of time in which to enjoy these rights and freedoms is to be found in the true understandings of the bible. It is the owners manual for mankind, and it carries with it a guarantee for an everlasting maintenance contract from God to keep you alive and to teach you and teach you and teach you until you have a character that has no evil (none of us have got there yet but many of us will after Armageddon). For this is necessary for anyone who lives forever, because evil eventually destroys itself, and therefore has to be eliminated in the longer term. We have decoded this book to some extent, we have discovered some interesting things about God and Jesus and Mankind. Please have a look at www.bibledecoded.com with an open mind.
The Lords' Witnesses
went to your bible website. My question is; what if you are wrong?
It's a good question. Look at sections 1-16 and tell me if you think I am or not?
If I am wrong but I have nonetheless decoded the bible to some extent, then God will show someone where my mistake is and that person will tell us in time for us to recalculate before the end, and you will see a large increase in the size of the Lords' Witnesses, who currently are very small indeed.
If I am wrong period, and I haven't decoded the bible at all, then he will not bless my work, and not many people will join the Lords' Witnesses.
If I am right then the UN will take over rulership of the world in April next year, and the ban on buying and selling by them will come into force in May. 666 Hebrew months after their birthday in October 1945. There will also be a large war between September of this year and October of next. One assumes that this war will be the reason why the UN takes over. I have already been correct in my interpretation of the ten horns of the wild beast that represents the UN as meaning 10 years of power from 1998 to 2008. So since they did start to get serious power in 1998, we are now 8 years from the end according to that understanding. Also this beast has 7 heads which is why they get absolute power 7 years before the end in 2001Nisan, which is around April 2000.
What if I am right?
Please browse and judge. Let me know if you see any fundamental flaws!
The Lords' Witnesses
QUESTION7: FIRST PUBLIC DATE OF ARMAGEDDON TALK: Hi Colin,
It's at 7:30 pm at the Clarence Room of the Cumberland Hotel near Marble Arch, London W1, on Tuesday 21st March. I will be disclosing 4 different ways to deduce the date of the first day of the kingdom of God, which is the start of Armageddon, from the bible. Nearest Tube is Marble Arch.
God's blessings and my regards
ANSWER: Mr Ritchie
Thank you for the email. It will be a pleasure to attend your talk on Tuesday.
Looking forward to seeing you.
May God bless.
I am in receipt of your fax headed, somewhat sensationally, 'Armageddon'. I would like to know exactly what your purpose is in claiming to reveal specific dates concerning various biblical, current and future events.
ANSWER: Hi Princess,
Our purpose is to discover and to reveal the true meaning of the bible. Further it is to disseminate this truth far and wide.
One reason for doing this dissemination is to encourage debate and further bible research. So that our peers can correct any mistakes that we may have made.
By the tone of your letter it looks like you suspect us of having masterplan to destabilise the universe and then conquer the earth starting at the Cumberland Hotel in Marble Arch. If that is the case, then we are sorry to disappoint you!
However if you wish to hear a talk that is every bit as sensational as our fax header, you are most welcome to come!
Regards and blessings
QUESTION9: I just perused your web site and I must say a lot of your interpretation is interesting. However I cannot believe that is it okay in the eyes of our Lord to fornicate if you use a condom! Cheating is cheating no matter what and that sort of thinking will only lead to distrust, despair and the breakdown of many marriages. By having sex with someone other than your spouse, you are committing adultery, protection or not! One of the commandments is 'thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife' Another one is 'thou shalt not commit adultery' By even wanting or yearning for someone else is considered a sin. God's commandments are very clear, you'd better go back and re-read them and get with the program!
I do not disagree with your much of your email. I do not argue that it is ok to sleep with another man's wife just as long as you use a condom. I argue that if you sleep with another man's wife and you use a condom then no adultery has occurred, since his wife has not been defiled with your semen.
You rightly point out that for a fact a coveting of another man's wife would have occurred. But coveting is not adultery. There was no penalty in the law of Moses for coveting so it was not a sin under the law of Moses. Had it been a sin, there would have been a commensurate penalty. For God's justice is tooth for tooth, soul for soul. One can hardly sit round a table and decide how much coveting has been going on and therefore what size of sheep one should sacrifice! Covetousness is a wrongful desire policed by one's own conscience. But we are not under the law of Moses anymore. Neither are we under the ten commandments, although the principles behind them still apply. Jesus died to end that law.
Jesus said: Everyone that keeps looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart (Matthew 5:28).
He has a disrespectful desire to her marriage. But James informs us that:
Desire when it becomes fertile gives birth to sin (James 1:15).
Covetousness, desire, is not sin, it is a mental state which can give birth to sin. I think we are operating at cross purposes. I am interpreting unambiguous laws for sin in the congregation. I am not giving moral guidance in the Joining and leaving web page. You I think are giving reasonable moral guidance. But wanting or yearning for someone else is not a sin, it is a dangerous desire. There is a fundamental difference between the two.
There is a difference between feeling like killing someone, or having the desire to see someone dead and being a murderer! I will not form a 'desire police' as some of the fundamental churches do, in their abuse of those who follow them.
As regards getting with the program. The question is whose program? I detest the hypocritical 'morality' of the midwest bible belt in the US and the Mirror newspaper in the UK, and the wishy washy protestant churches and the flock abusing fundamental churches. I love the freedom of God and his true justice. Like Moses said:
The Rock, perfect is his activity, all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness with whom there is no injustice (Deuteronomy 32:4)
If one is to be a true witness to him and to his son then one needs to be true to his justice. I am trying to understand this justice, with a view to implementing it precisely, in the Lords' Witnesses.
There is a common sense in the interpretation that fornication requires semen, and it is this. One cannot get any physical problems (sexually transmitted diseases, unplanned pregnancies etc) if one uses a condom properly. And the physical is God's mirror of the spiritual.
What I am saying is that you are morally right and legally wrong!
But thanks for your concern. If you can find some scriptural proof that fornication does not of necessity involve semen, then please mail it to me! I agree that to sleep with another man when married is unfaithful and could well lead to the break up of one's marriage, it can be a horrendous crime against love. But it is only adultery if there is semen.
On a more positive note, which pages did you like/agree with??
Regards and blessings
QUESTION10: 212-450-3343 212-262-4998
I have reported your operation to the appropriate authorities in London and New York. If you don't stop faxing me (I've previously called your automated removal line several times), I will come and pay you a visit the next time I'm in London (often for business).
If somebody else is maintaining your fax list, you better tell them to fix this.
DO IT NOW OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES!!!! GOD WILL COME AND FRY YOUR LITTLE GOD-FEARING ASSES. BURN BURN BURN IN HELL.
HOW DOES IT FEEL TO GET UNSOLICITED OPINIONS FROM OTHERS?????? PERHAPS WORDS THAT EVEN OFFEND YOU -- TOO BAD, YOU LITTLE BRITISH BUGGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your obnoxious fax is attached.
Fire and Brimstone,
Please send the authorities in New York to whom you say you have complained a copy of your abusing email so that you can be prosecuted for hate crime. We do expect you to own up since you are such a vigorous champion of justice.
God's justice is that he does not fry asses in hell. Hell (Hades, Sheol) is a place of temporary sleep. Hell (Gehenna), was the garbage dump outside Jerusalem, where dead bodies of criminals where burnt for sanitory reasons. It symbolises a place of eternal sleep or everlasting cutting off. It is not a barbecue.
If you want to know how to avoid going to either of these two places please visit www.bibledecoded.com . In the meantime we are removing your two fax numbers and we apologise for the alleged failure of our automated system.
QUESTION11: Who on Earth gave you the right to invade my privacy with your inane
You have adopted the offensive selling techniques of the telemarketers - the modern equivalents of the Merchants in the Temple - to broascast blasphemy.
Read again the Lord's Second Commandment and tremble, because you will not escape His punishment.
You should not take the Lord's Name in vain, neither for greed nor to claim that you can interpret His Designs.
You bless me in His Name??!! You petulant New Popes!
Humble unto the Lord!
ANSWER: Dear Sir,
The man on earth who gave us authority to fax you was the architect of the first amendment. The people in heaven who gave us this authority are God and Jesus. Jesus was the original unsolicited evangeliser, network communicator. We are not temple merchants because we are not selling anything, we are giving free as Jesus commanded.
But we can sell you an all American Armageddon countdown clock with genuine calves leather carrying case at the special price of $9.99 for a limited period only whilst stocks last if you order now... sorry just joking! we are a charity we sell nothing.
We do hope that our efforts to inform you about God's purposes are not in vain!
Who are you to prohibit us from interpreting the bible? Do you not see that it is Satan who plays that game (through and along with every spiritually insecure religious organisation.)
Why not visit sections  to  and the Code page on www.bibledecoded.com and then tell us that our claims that we can interpret the holy book are false!
May God bless you
The Lords' Witnesses.
P.S. Be careful whom you condemn, with the measure that you are measuring out, you will have it measured out to you (Mark 4:24). With what judgement you are judging you will be judged (Matthew 7:2).
QUESTION12: Sir/Madam, please ignore my request for a copy of your web site. It became apparent, as I perused the site, that you are Jehovah's Witnesses. Should have realised from your 'new' name. Yours etc C.M.Wall.
Are you Chris Wall?? We are not Jehovah's Witnesses. I used to be one, but I was thrown out for having a brain.
RESPONSE: Hello Gordon...........why the references to the Watchtower then in the web blurb ? regards C.Wall
RESPONSE: Because the JWs have a place in God's plan in our understanding. They are in the same position today that the Jews were after Christ (i.e. once accepted but now rejected by God).
They produce a sour taste in many people's mouths as do the Physical Jews. It is the lot of any group who have been truly associated with God at some time to be held in high disregard by much of the World.
But why do you care about them? They are finished as representatives of God. They have treated me and in fact all of their followers abysmally and so now God has 'moved on'. And I am so glad that he has. And it is a pleasure to be free from their oppression. But, I do not forget that it was them who proved to me, beyond question, that there was a God and that the holy book was logical. Whereas it was Newton who proved to me just how logical God was, from which I deduced that the Bible was just as perfect in logic as the universe itself, from which I deduced that it was in a symbolic code, since this logic was not normally apparent in the literal meaning of a chapter of it.
Regards and blessings
RESPONSE: Hi Gordon..........It is obvious by your reply that your thoughts and ideals are still deeply rooted in JWs ideology. I find it interesting to note that 'you' deduced that the bible is in symbolic code. May I refer you to Michael Drosnin and the work he has been involved in since the early nineties. This decoding is based on math and is quite convincing. Also, I must point out that poor old Newton died whilst still searching for a code. He truly believed that the bible contained a hidden prophecy of human history but although he tried all manner of math his lifetime project failed. Eliyahu Rips succeeded as he had modern technology to hand and this is where Drosnin comes into the equation but I'm sure you are aware of all this anyway.
your group is not based on the old JW tenet then I sincerely believe you should
drop the 'Witness' part of your name. I,for one, am still not convinced.
In peace......... Cherry Wall
From a sales standpoint I would agree that dropping the Witness part might help. But our name is deduced from our understanding of the bible code and we try not to be hypocrites.
Our first book was published in September 1992, Eli Rips published in 1994. As you may know Eli is not a Christian, so he has not understood the New Testament and neither has he grasped the reason why the first born son of Abraham, namely Ishmael, lost his birthright to the second born son Isaac. And the firstborn son of Isaac, Esau, lost his birthright to the second born son Jacob, and the firstborn son of Jacob, Reuben, lost his birthright to the 11th born son Joseph, and the firstborn son of Joseph, Manasseh, lost his birthright to the second born son Ephraim. These things declare, that Israel, the nation, which as a group God calls his firstborn, telling Moses:
And you must say to Pharaoh: This is what Jehovah has said: Israel is my son, my firstborn (Exodus 4:22),
will lose his/its birthright to the Christians, who were God's (and Abrahamís Ė Ed.) 'second born
son' and were first baptised by John the baptist in the Jordan.
If the ELS 'decoders' do not have the literal meaning of the bible correct, then it is unlikely that the holy spirit would give them the coded meaning. visit www.truebiblecode.com/code.html#c21 for some good websites showing that ELS is misinterpreted statistics. You can do it with War and Peace apparently!
The sons of Israel were the first true religion for Abraham's seed. The JWs were the 4th true religion for Abraham's seed and the 3rd true Christian religion if we are correct. If we are rooted in them then Eli is rooted in a religion rejected nearly 2,000 years before they were!
God loves the sons of Israel and the JWs, we must make sure that we love God more than we hate any group of his people our brothers and sisters.
Blessings and regards
RESPONSE: Oh Gordon.........enough already !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, you are correct in that any large enough tome can be 'decoded' to a point. All things are open to interpretation and one must view such things with an open mind. I have digested your latest email and I'm now even more convinced of your true leanings. I can not continue with this correspondence .
QUESTION13: Dear Bible Decoders
Thank you for your fax - it gave me a right good belly laugh this morning.
You see I was wondering whether it had occurred to you guys - that the Old Testament, for example, is based on Mesopotamian and therefore pagan stories. So which God do you think inspired all that then?
Also, has it ever occurred to you that when both old and new testaments were in essence written - they didn't know the earth was round or even where the weather came from - so is it any wonder they invented 'a big man' Ė in their image - who they believed was pulling the strings.
Also, any thoughts on those missing gospels? After all, you do realise these writings were never written as a single text and were collected together by medieval clergy to suit their own ends. And hey, be careful of some of that translating from the Aramaic and the Greek!
But what really made me laugh was the phrase 'A kingdom of humans with bodies that do not age' - sounds great to me - beam me up Scotty!
.....thanks for the invite but I already bought my ticket.
ANSWER: Dear highly sceptical Nick of great patronisation,
Normally we do not respond to know it alls, but in your case we cannot resist.
Have you heard of a bloke called Isaiah who served a God called Jehovah or YHWH. He said this 700 years before Christ and 2500 years before Newton:
There is one who is dwelling above the circle/orb of the earth, the dwellers in which are a grasshoppers (Isaiah 40:22).
The whole book of Isaiah was found in the dead sea scrolls, which are dated to one century before Christ.
No new testament book is in Aramaic, Daniel the old testament book is in Aramaic. We have the Greek of the New testament and the Hebrew and Aramaic of the old testament in the form of interlinear bibles. And we have Analytical Lexicons which precisely explain the meaning case tense mode and person of every word.
One of the things that the bible reveals is that rather than mankind inventing warp drive and beating God who said: Let there be light, God limited our intergalactic capabilities so that people like you and me would be unable to screw up the universe like we have screwed up this planet until we had grown up enough. Has it ever occurred to you that God might have created the universe effectively in his warp drive with a very high speed of light and then slowed it down as a cage for us until we have learned enough about morality to be allowed out, at which time he could say let there be light again and change the speed to say 3 x 1016 metres per second? (Current Big Bang theory postulates precisely this - Ed)
Please explain why it is that the Sun being precisely 400 times further away from the earth than the moon (as an average) is also precisely 400 times bigger than the moon so that they both fit precisely over each other in an eclipse. Have you any idea what the odds are against that happening if it was not a matter of design??
Hey, look a bit harder, or you might miss the next episode entirely!
RESONSE: Thanks for getting back to me.
Yes, I'm very familiar with Yahweh and the advent of monotheism and the Judeo/Christian heritage. But just because some fairly primitive human beings sought solice in one representation of themselves - as opposed to several (re. paganism) - so what? What makes Yahweh more realistic/plausible than Zeus/Pluto/Apollo et al. There's no proof for any of them.
And what on earth to do you propose to prove by using a quote from Isaiah that claims there's another world inhabited by Grasshoppers. I mean, pleeeassse!
Isaiah would have grasshoppers at the front of his mind because they were part of his pastoral, primitive world - we write about what we know. But anyway the less said about Grasshoppers the better!
We're all well aware of the Dead Sea Scrolls and they are a truly fascinating and illuminating discovery - but their existence doesn't prove the presence of a god, any more than the presence of the Parthenon on the Acropolis in Athens proves the existence of the Goddess Athena. You've got to do better than that!
If I gave the impression that I thought the collected gospels of the New Testament were written in Aramaic - then apologies - as we all know the New Testament texts were originally written in Greek - and came from a period in history where Greek was the educated text and Latin the vernacular.
But surely you must grasp the fact that the texts of the New Testament were never written as one book - were in fact selected by a fourth century French cleric to create the tone he felt appropriate for Western Christianity. And in so doing left out many other gospels written about Christ - that contradicted (even to a greater extent than the existing gospels do) the story of the Hebrew carpenter.
And if you know your history you would also know - that the Christian religion is so prevalent for two reasons ...one, because St. Paul was a fanatical preacher and proselytiser and two, in 310 AD the Roman Emperor Constantine enacted the Edict of Milan - in a desperate search to find something to stabilise a foundering empire and took an entirely temporal decision to make Christianity the religion of the empire to try and save the Pax Romanes (Pax Romana - Ed.) Without this pragmatic Pagan - the bible would have been consigned to a position of it's true essence - which is a bunch of very entertaining Middle Eastern fairy tales!
Anyway, apart from all this - you lose me when you get into all that L Ron Hubbard space stuff. And I've no idea why the earth is in such a handy proportion to the Sun. Some things are just coincidental - face it.
And some thing else you may want to face up to - that just maybe, our presence on this planet is purely one large accident and in the scheme of the universe we, as humans, have as much significance as a load of ants. Yikes!
RESPONSE: Dear fellow ant,
Perhaps we all have the significance of a load of grasshoppers?
It was actually the circle or orb of the earth that I was referring to. A statement made for a fact over 1500 years before the concept of the world being round was even debated by the scientific community. I did not adduce the dead sea scrolls as a proof of the existence of God, rather I used them as a proof of the pre-existence of the writings of Isaiah. How did he know the earth was round in the 'primitive world' in which he lived?
A certain acting detective inspector who arrested me ten years ago said: I do not believe in coincidences !
The very existence of the plethora of Gods to which you refer, proves that there is a true God, because who ever made a series of fakes when there wasn't an original??
Confucious he say: Even glasshopper cleated by somebody! Nationar rottery cleates mirrionailes but landom chance did not cleate camerot!
Regards & blessings
QUESTION14: The churches of today have a strong standpoint against homosexuality. The Catholic Church states that one can be homosexual, yet as long as one doesn't practise. Yet on the opposite sde of the fence, the Christian charismatic movements state that it is a sin and will lead to the eternal fires of hell (grave as we know it).
First of all I ask, can you interpret to me
A: 1 Cor 6:9(I read it on the site)
B: Is Homosexuality a Sin?
C: If one doesn't practise, do they still commit a sin?
And D: What is the Lords' Witnesses view on homosexuality?
As this is a major area for me as I always understand everybody in the eyes of God is equal, regardless of sexuality, colour or creed. And this is always an area which stops me in religion. Even though I come from a very strict religious background, there is always at the back of my mind the question what does God really think of homosexual people, are they normal, are they weird. Are they Sinners? This is just a worldly issue and not really a question you have to answer. Yet one I'd be grateful for an answer from. For as of yet, nobody has been able to answer it, in a non bigotry way.
And as for why I ask this question, I'm concerned for if it's a SIN, will gay people be allowed into the Kingdom or will they be destroyed at 2008 (as you believe) Now I'll leave you with a phrase from one of my closest icons Dale Winton.
"Call me gay, call me straight, but please don't call me fat." - D. Winton (when speaking to the TV TIMES).
Thanks for your questions. It is an omission on my site.
Attached is a word document with the answers you request, which I will put up on the site soon. I forgot to answer C: in the document. The answer is NO. You only sin if you perform a male homosexual act.
As an aside, Gary Glitter was sent to prison for possessing child porn. Now the law of Moses is very clear and indisputably just. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth a soul for a soul. It wasn't: thinking about a tooth for a tooth. It wasn't: having pictures of dentists for a tooth.
What if I possessed a copy of Shindlers List, a film which contains things more horrific than child abuse. It contains genocide. Should I then be locked up as a potential genocidal maniac? God's justice is practical and fair.
Regards and blessings
What! Do you not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God's kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God's kingdom.
And yet that is what some of you were. But you have
been washed clean, but you have been sanctified, but you have been declared
righteous in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God.(1
And I have hope toward God, which hope these [men]
themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the
righteous and the unrighteous (Acts
everybody who is resurrected inherits Godís kingdom, because such is the one
and only destination of the resurrection. They inherit it because it is a
feature of Jesusí will if you like, made possible by his death. So Paul is
saying that unrighteous people as a group will not inherit the kingdom but he is
also saying that various unrighteous individuals will inherit it. Consider for
example the unclean animals in Noahís ark. They symbolise a resurrection of
can limit Godís mercy and nor would I want to. There will be male homosexuals
in the kingdom of God. But the male homosexual act is a sin for which any man
should be thrown out of a true Christian congregation (unless he was raped). So
there will be no practising male homosexuals in the true Christian congregation.
scriptures below show quite plainly that the male homosexual act, is a sin.
Now we know
that the Law is fine provided one handles it lawfully in the knowledge of this
fact, that law is promulgated, not for a righteous man, but for persons lawless
and unruly, ungodly and sinners, lacking loving
kindness, and profane, murderers of
fathers and murderers of mothers, manslayers, fornicators, men who lie with
males, kidnappers, liars, false swearers, and whatever other thing is in
opposition to the healthful teaching
according to the glorious good news of the happy
God, with which I was entrusted (1
So too Sodom
and Gomorrah and the cities about them, after they in the same manner as the
foregoing ones had committed fornication excessively and gone out after flesh
for unnatural use, are placed before [us] as a [warning] example by
undergoing the judicial
punishment of everlasting fire (Jude 7).
likewise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently
inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is
obscene and receiving in themselves the full recompense, which was due for
their error (Romans
And you must not lie down with a male the same as
you lie down with a woman. It is a detestable thing
And when a man lies down with a male the same as
one lies down with a woman, both of them have done a detestable thing. They
should be put to death without fail. Their own blood is upon them (Leviticus 20:13).
tell you what pleasure it gives me to answer such a well constructed set of
questions on this issue and to explain to you Godís love and his
regards the meaning of 1 Corinthians 6:9, it is simply that practising male
homosexuals as a group will not get a resurrections. It does not mean that all
practising male homosexuals will not enter the kingdom. Some of them will.
your second question: Is homosexuality a sin? The answer is no.
homosexuality or lesbianism is not a sin period. Women can do whatever they like
to each other sexually without sinning. The bible is silent on this issue. And
since Paul has said:
For by law is the accurate knowledge of sin (Romans 3:20).
the law does not mention female homosexuality, it is not a sin. This is the
wonderful thing about the bible. It recognises the real differences between men
and women, rather like the book women are from Venus and men are from Mars. The
bible is not politically correct, it is correct period.
It is not a
sin to fancy a bloke. But it is a sinful desire. James says of this:
Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives
birth to sin; in turn, sin, when it has been accomplished, brings forth death (James 1:15).
not mean that all sinners die. It means that all sinners (who commit sins
deserving of death) in the true Christian congregation should be thrown out for
a period. It is a sin
to perform a male homosexual act.
explain what this means if you are not in the true Christian congregation. If
you are not in any covenant with God (i.e. not a true Christian) you have made
no agreement to abide by his laws. So you will more than likely be committing
all sorts of sins, since you do not have an accurate knowledge of his laws and
perhaps do not even believe that there is a God. In this case God will judge you
on the basis of your conscience, says Paul:
They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter
of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing
witness with them and, between their own thoughts, they are being accused or
even excused (Romans 2:15).
So if in all
honesty your conscience does not beat you when you perform a male homosexual act
then this act will not be held against you by God.
conscience is obviously bothering you. May I say this first. Be more concerned
about finding your God, and finding his true people, than about homosexuality
for now. Because when/if you find his true people, the matter will seem smaller
in comparison to the love of God. And abstaining from male homosexual acts is
good, but seeking the Lord in courage and in truth, is better.
Now let us
suppose that you find the true people of God. There have been 4 true Christian
religions since Jesus, and the Lordís Witnesses, the bible decoders, the Life,
are the fourth. If you would like information on the four true religions just
If you were
to join the true Christian congregation, then you would be thrown out if you
performed a male homosexual act with anyone. It is far more serious to commit
such an act within the true congregation than it is to commit it outside.
Because once in a covenant with God, you have broken your agreement with him if
you commit a sin bringing death (which today means excommunication).
If you did
this you could still come back in at a later date, either after 7 months or
after the next Jubilee, which is after every 49 months, whichever is the sooner.
So if you joined us and you fancied some men, just regard them all as married!
Seriously you should try to kill the desire too.
loves all men, and he loves sinners, because we are all sinners, but he
especially loves men who are trapped by their sinful desires but are fighting to
overcome them. It is when a man from the depth of the sewer cries out to his
creator and says: Help me God, I know that I have screwed up, that the holy
spirit responds big time. And I believe that you have been in that situation.
speak for the holy spirit, in fact the holy spirit speaks for me, but that is a
different matter. But I can tell you this: God so loved the world that he
gave his only begotten son.
All of us,
sinners and saints. Male Homosexuality is quite obviously unnatural (Jude 7) and
obscene (Romans 1:27). But God detests the hypocrisy of the so called moral
majority as much as he detests the homosexual acts that the minority indulge in.
Jesus spent more time condemning Pharisees than he did homosexuals. In fact
Jesus himself did not condemn homosexuals at all. He did mention Sodom and
Gommorah, in fact in a positive vein:
Truly I say to you, It will be more endurable for
the land of Sodom≠ and Gomorrah on Judgment Day than for that city (Matthew 10:15).
the male homosexual act is an excommunication sin. But the larger threat to your
everlasting inheritance, which is to be a perfect human for 1,000 years from
2008 to 3008 and then to be an angel or a human everlastingly, is the deception
and the snares of bigoted and hypocritical false religions, which offer you
everything but deliver you into the dense black fog of pharisaical pretense,
ignorance, subservience, tradition, stultification and death.
greater than sin. Love covers a multitude of sins. Love conquers sin and pushes
fear outside. I hope this exposition is of some help.
I got a FAX for a free copy of your book.
Before I start into your site and teaching, please direct me to your statement of faith or doctrine.
With the love of Christ, Rich McMahon Panama City, FL
We are Christians, we believe that Jesus was God's son, and that he was raised from the dead on the third day counting inclusively.
We believe that all salvation is through Jesus and that all official salvation is also through the First Abrahamic covenant.
If you want something more sensational. We believe that entrance to the New Covenant has now ended and that a second new covenant has been made. We also believe that both of these covenants are subcovenants of the first Abrahamic Covenant.
Regards and blessings
RESPONSE: Hi Gordon,
Thanks for your response. Could you please fill in a few more points for me?
1. Is Jesus God in the flesh ? (John 1:1-14 and 1 John 5:7)
2. Is the entire Bible (66 Books, OT and NT) true and Holy Spirit inspired word of God ?
Thanks and best regards, Rich McMahon, Panama City FL
RESPONSE: Hi Rich,
1. No he is not
2. Yes it is
These two statements are not contradictory. No son who is by definition created, is his own father, who in this case is God. The Father is God of the son, who himself is a God because like begets like, but he is not 'God the father'.
Thanks for your reply. I'm glad we agree that our Bible is God's word to us and is true (in the original writing). I don't want to get into idle babble, but I would like to establish a few points before I look into your teaching. Thank you for being open to reasoning together with me.
Please let me know your thoughts on the following...
1. In John 1:1-2, 14, God tells us, in the beginning, that the Word (Jesus) was God.
In Colossians 2:9, God tells us that in Jesus dweleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
2. Question...Was Jesus raised bodily from the dead ?
3. Question...Briefly, how does one become born again ?
Thanks and best regards, Rich McMahon Panama City, FL
RESPONSE: Hi Rich,
1. See www.truebiblecode.com\understanding243.html
In the beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God and the Word was [a] God (John 1:1).
Greek has no indefinite article 'a' but it does have a definite article 'the'. So John 1:1 can be translated either as 'the Word was God' or as 'the Word was a God'. If you read on to verse 18 you find:
No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him (John 1:18).
So Jesus is the only begotten God who is in the bosom position with his Father God. God himself is not begotten of anyone. He is the great Begetter!! Unlike Freddie Mercury who was the great Pretender!
Jesus explains that all angels are Gods to the Jews when he says:
Jesus answered them: Is it not written in your Law: I said you are gods? (John 10:34).
It is very dangerous and normally wrong to deduce a doctrine from one scripture alone. You need to harmonise all scriptures on a subject before you get the true meaning.
As regards Colossians 2:9. Because in him is dwelling down all the fullness of the divinity bodily (Greek Interlinear Translation).
i.e. Jesus has all of God's fullness dwelling in him bodily. This is the same statement as:
He is the reflection of [his] glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power; and after he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places (Hebrews 1:3).
His has all of God's qualities but he is not God. He is God's son. Just as George W. Bush has all of the 'Qualities' of his Dad ?!? (I dread to think).
When Jesus died his body, his soul, was given to God to pay for Adam's soul, his body, in the ransom which was soul for soul. A soul is a vehicle for the spirit. A soul can be human or angelic. However Jesus' spirit went to sleep actually until the Sunday when he was resurrected in the body of a Gardener look-alike initially. Every appearance that he made to his disciples after he was resurrected was in a different body. This is telling us about how he comes again. In fact he comes 6 times after he died, even as he appeared 6 times to his disciples as recorded in the bible see: www.truebiblecode.com\understanding240.html
So Jesus was raised from the dead, which means that he spirit which was asleep was awakened, in fact in a new human body initially. He now exists in his old angelic body.
For how one is born again see www.truebiblecode.com/understanding190.html
Blessings and thanks
QUESTION16: Subject: better start working on plan B
So the UN is going "to take over complete rulership of the world" in about a month or two eh? I have to admit, I like your style. You guys may be nuts, but at least you're not in doubt.
Want some friendly advice? Better start working on your "revised" prophesy real soon. Hope you're creative!
some fun reading -- Gil Theissen
ANSWER: Hi Gil,
What do you mean? We are already on plan Z !!
Seriously though this is make or break for us. Glad we were entertaining
P.S. Do you know of any very remote islands ??
RESPONSE: Dear Gordon:
What's this? You guys are not only nuts, but good natured with a sense of humor as well? Now I really like your style. Nevertheless, you guys are from Britain, though. Don't you know that this Apocalyptic, cover-yer-head and kiss-your-butt-goodbye type evangelism is reserved for us lunatics over here in the good ole U.S. of A? You trying to horn in, or what?
Anyway, if it didn't mean me ending up covered with boils or something, I'd almost wish you good luck on your prophecy.
P.S. Does this mean we're outta luck for the trip to England we're planning next spring?
QUESTION17: Dear Friend
I have read with great interest your wonderfully researched book 'The True Bible Code'. Although I have not yet had the opportunity to read it in its entirety, I must nevertheless confess that I have so far found it to be very enlightening and it certainly raises some trenchant Scriptural points.
One passage in particular caught my attention - on the issue of blood transfusions and in particular the irradiation of blood prior to transfusion. You ask whether it would be possible to irradiate blood,
to kill all living cells, and thus make it acceptable for genuine Christians and you also point out that this would be a better therapy as the blood would also be sterile following irradiation.
I have some background in the Sciences - albeit with a more Physical bent - so this point interested me on both theological and scientific fronts. I have since carried out some research at my local library and University; sadly it appears that it your hypothesis is not scientifically valid.
The radiation used to kill the cells would also have the effect of destroying the blood's oxygen-carrying capabilities. The haemoglobin, the protein in the red blood cells that transport the oxygen around the body, would be destroyed and, thus, the blood would be useless. One of the Scientists I discussed this issue with did say that one may as well transfuse black pudding, as the overall benefit would be much the same.
Furthermore, irradiating the blood may have the effect of 'transforming' the white blood cells that when transfused into the patient may lead to cancer and in particular leukaemia. In effect the patient would have leapt from the frying pan into the fire - albeit a rather slow-cooking one!! Also the blood would not necessarily be sterile following irradiation. The prion protein, PrP, that causes BSE and vCJD ('mad cow disease' and its human equivalent) would not be destroyed by this process.
I apologise for being bearer of bad news, but it was an idea that was well worth suggesting and I'm so terribly sorry it didn't turn out better.
Finally, may I reiterate that I have immensely enjoyed your book, and I look forward to you reply and reading your opinions on the issues I have raised (have, for example, other people contacted you with similar information?), and perhaps discussing further issues as I progress through the book.
I appreciate your research into our blood idea. But blood is currently irradiated at the level of upto 5000 rads without damaging heamaglobin or red cells. I believe that the platelets are the first casualties of an increased dosage. So is there a level or type of radiation which kills the cells but which does not destroy the haemoglobin or give the recipient leukemia without producing black pudding ?!?
I wonder whether there is not a chemical treatment that would kill the cells, without destroying the haemoglobin, and then one could neutralise the chemical before transfusion.
All one wants is a dead haemoglobin carrying vehicle, which poses no threat to the body. I read somewhere that the Japanese are working on a synthetic haemoglobin vehicle.
You are the only one to pick up on the blood idea at this time. But let's not give up, lives are at stake. My father was a Professor of surgery in London! I must speak to the professor of Haematology and see if he can think of a way to kill erythrocytes without impairing their haemoglobin transportation capability for at least a while. The other cells can be separated out I think. Although whether this process is 100% effective I do not know.
If you get stuck anywhere in the book, send us your problem, we will solve it if we can.
Regards and blessings
I apologise for sending this e-mail to 3 separate addresses, but I was uncertain of which address to use to contact Gordon Ritchie who replied to my last e-mail.
Thank you most sincerely for your reply and I apologise for the delay in my response, but I have been away form home visiting my grandson.
My research has shown that blood is indeed irradiated with 3500-5000 rads, although this does not appear to be routine practise. The purpose of this is to inactive the lymphocytes which, in immuno-suppressed patients, could lead to a massive immune response and rejection of the transfused blood.
However, I was unable to find out if the radiation actually 'kills' them, although that seems unlikely as many of the articles referred only to 'inactivation' of lymphocytes.
You are right in saying that this process damages the platelets, but there are some effects on the red cells, such as a reduced life span and altered permeability. So, I wonder if there may remain some potential problems if blood were to be transfused on a large scale, such as during major surgery.
I feel however, that the point I was trying to make in my last e-mail was missed I was trying raise some of the problems inherent in deciding whether or not an erythrocyte is dead?
During the development of red cells they become enucleated - i.e. the nucleus is pushed out from the cell to make room for more haemoglobin - consequently they have a very short life span and very little, if any, metabolism. Thus, following treatment by either chemical means or radiation, what does one measure to ensure the red blood cells are dead? Normally, one might choose messenger RNA or protein synthesis (a common target for many toxic chemicals), but in the absence of a nucleus these processes do not occur, neither can cellular division. Furthermore, erythrocytes also lack mitochondria therefore little means for energy production - they are in effect bags of haemoglobin that take up and then give up oxygen and carbon dioxide according chemical gradient and the laws of physics.
(One could even argue that erythrocytes aren't a living entity in themselves. They don't have any discernible metabolism, they don't replicate and if one were to take them out of the body they would do little, whereas if one were to remove, say, liver cells then they would continue to grow outside the body (the basis of tissue culture). Not of course that I'm saying we should be pedantic with the Bible! I raise this issue as more of a philosophical point - a point for discussion - rather than as a point from which one could call for a change in Christian practice.)
The point I am trying to make is that as erythrocytes neither divide, synthesise neither mRNA nor protein, and produce little, if any, energy, then only feature that one could use as a measure of their being alive is the ability to transport oxygen around the body - after all that is all they do. So, it is arguable that in order to kill erythrocytes one would have to destroy their oxygen carrying abilities (the only thing they do - the only thing that could mark them out as 'alive') and obviously the continuance of this process following treatment is crucial to them being of use following transfusion.
This issue of measuring life and death aside, I would, I'm afraid to say, maintain that there is no treatment, either chemical or radiation that could kill erythrocytes without damaging their oxygen-carrying capabilities.
I hope however that you will still reply to my e-mail, despite its negativity, as I do enjoy these discussions. I'm still reading you book and finding most enjoyable. It has been some time since a book has made me think so deeply about my faith.
Peace and love
RESPONSE: Dear Francis,
I think you may have cracked it.
As you rightly ask, what defines a cell as living from the biblical point of view?
There is a scripture which says:
The word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two edged sword (Hebrews 4:12).
The bible is living in the sense that it has future meanings which are different from the original literal meaning. If we translate this into cellular terms, a living cell would need to be different in the future by it's own power from it's state in the present. Putting this another way it would need to exhibit a self induced non zero rate of change of it's constitution.
Red blood cells do not do this, they are therefore dead.
So now we have a treatment which does not violate God's laws. Namely blood plasma (if this is the term for the fluid without any cells) with red cells only. This would obviously work fine and produce less immune system response from the patient.
So my next question is:
Can one separate red cells only from blood?
If one can then we are in business. And we could start saving (physical) lives of faithful Christians.
Thanks so much for your well thought out analysis. Please let me know if red cell separation is possible. Perhaps your email was not as negative as you thought!
May the true God bless your reasoning
QUESTION18: I have found your site interesting to read but I believe you have inaccuracies to numerable to avoid, so, if you can explain a few of these I would be most grateful. starting with, you state Jesus was crucified and buried on Friday, this is impossible since he was in the grave 3 days and 3 nights, arising the first day of the week shortly before sunrise. from Fri. evening to early sun. morning is 2 nights and 2 days (Fri. 3-6pm = 1day, sat. 6pm -6pm = 1 night 1 day, sun. 6pm-6am 1 night) looking forward to hearing from you soon, David
ANSWER: Hi DP
Jesus was not in the grave for 3 days and 3 nights, he was in the heart of the earth for 3 days and 3 nights:
For just as Jonah was in the belly of the huge fish three days and three nights, so the Son of man will be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights (Matthew 12:40).
The bible uses words very carefully and deliberately.
The 'earth' symbolically represents God's administration on earth, this is the symbolism of Revelation 13, 17. The earth in general represents an administration, a structure, the sand represents those who adhere to this administration and the sea represents those who are governed by the administration, since the land sets the boundaries for the sea, yet they do not support that administration.
So Jesus was arrested on the Thursday night in the Garden of Gethsemane. He was in custody of the spiritual administration of Israel, the spiritual 'earth' , the Pharisees and the Sanhedrin until he was handed over to Pilate, the head of the physical administration, the physical 'earth' in Israel. He died on the Friday at 3pm, he rose on the Sunday morning. During this period his was in the heart of the actual earth, being buried in the tomb. So he was 'in the heart of the earth' for Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights, and for Friday, Saturday and part of Sunday, days.
The bible is symbolic as well as literal. The full meaning requires an understanding of both of these meanings. The above is a part of the symbolic code of the bible. The symbolic meaning of 'earth' is crucial in understanding the book of Revelation. See section  of the website.
We will probably put this on our FAQ page. Keep 'em coming!
QUESTION19: Who ever you are
I am a
practicing Catholic perfectly happy in my religion, my fax # is 203 966-5497 AND
IF I GET ONE MORE UNSOLICITED FAX FROM YOUR ORGANIZATION I will report you to
the Attorney General of this state and of the State of New York. You have
absolutely no right to send your sheet to MY fax # unasked----and there are laws
ANSWER: Hello Noah Bear,
It appears that your ignorance of the law for non profit organisations based in the UK is surpassed only by your negligence in your search for God. Need I remind you that Jesus said:
Keep on searching, keep on knocking, keep on asking and you will find?
He did not say, be perfectly happy with whatever limited search you may have made to date!
The Lords' Witnesses
QUESTION20: Dear Twat,
Has it ever occurred to you that God might not actually exist? Are you too f***ing blind and stupid to realise that God and Jesus and all the other bo***cks you spout never actually f***ing happened.
And if he had ever existed (which he clearly f***ing didn't you stupid to***r), he would surely have derived great pleasure from raping small boys.
ANSWER: Dear Abuse Junky,
Taking pleasure in abuse appears to be more your cup of tea.
QUESTION21: Can any one help me to identify the source of this quote by Isaac Newton? I would be very grateful if anyone knows where it comes from. I know that you have done a great deal of work on Newton and the Bible.
Sincerely Alexander Waugh
Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors. Can it be an accident that all birds, beasts, and men have their right side and left side alike shaped? (except in their bowels); and just two eyes and no more on either side of the face; and just two ears on either side of the head; and a nose with two holes; and either two forelegs or two wings, or two arms on the shoulders, and two legs on the hips and no more? Whence arises this uniformity in all their outward shapes but from the counsel and contrivance of an Author.
Whence is it that the eyes of all sorts of living creatures are transparent to the very bottom, and the only transparent members in the body, having on the outside a hard transparent skin with a crystalline lens in the middle and a pupil before the lens, all of them so finely fitted and shaped for vision that no artist can mend them? Did blind chance know that there was light, and what was its refraction, and fit the eyes of all creatures after the most curious manner to make use of it? These and such like considerations always have and ever will prevail with mankind to believe that there is a Being who made all things and has all things in his power, and who is therefore to be feared (Isaac Newton).
ANSWER: Sorry we have lost our response, but what an articulate and well crafted quotation it is.
QUESTION22: Hello, and may God bless you:
I have one question for you, and I would appreciate an extremely brief reply:
In your opinion, is Jesus God or god.
Thanks for your quick and brief reply,
ANSWER: a god.
Regards & God's blessing (not Jesus' blessing)
(Actually he is both, he is 'a God' and he is 'God' (because having the
firstborn rights, God will only operate through Jesus, so Jesus is effectively
'God'. But he is not 'The God'. And this is precisely what John 1:1 is saying -
RESPONSE: Dear Gordon:
Your response makes me very sad. I wish all could come to know Jesus as I do and have His peace and His presence around me as I do. The Lord (Jehovah) has been revealing His truth to many nonbelievers lately. He knows the hearts of those who are truly seeking Him. Please, even if you think I'm just some (Jesus) freak, pray with an open mind. Pursue Him passionately. I pray He will show you His plan for salvation.
You have made the same mistake that Drosnen and Eli Rip have made. And that is failing to understand that Bible contains every event, every thought, and every instant of existence since Adam. It is Adam's story. And We are still Adam in Creation.
So anything that you look for in the Bible you will find. It only validates your own thoughts. Thloughts that you were destined to think. It is the history of the past, present and future of only one person Adam. The Bible tells you that. It tells you when he was born and it also tells you when he will die, which is the same date when all of the earth and mankind is destroyed, simply because we are all in Adam.
The bible tells you that also. In fact you have the scripture on your site if
you will simply interpret it.
And by now, if you are keeping up with the scientific community, you will have realized that your premise about the speed of light is incorrect. The speed of light has slowed since Adam's birth. In fact, it is some 25% slower than it was in the time of Christ. In actual calculation, that would make the universe a mere 10,000 years old or less. Perhaps 6,000 yrs?
The Bible is the history of Adam's dream while he is in the deep sleep from which he has never awakened. (Although the bible calls for his awakening it never states that he awakens.) In a dream, you create and play all characters, so Adam is every Character in the Bible in his dream of death. That is why we are born dead in our bodies. (The Bible tells you so.)
If you choose to interpret, then interpret literally. Really literally. Jacob is Israel. Interpret that. When you figure out what it means, you will know the real code and secret of the Bible and you will also know the scret of God, which will be revealed in the end times.
And if you are going to use the scientific, then also factor in holograms and
the holographic universe, and the holographic brain or how the collective unconscious divides "itself". To procreate, one must divide one's mind, holographically for a mind divides by no other means. To divide holographically is to recieve it all, or the All in All.
You are seeking to prove your "self" to be right, but you are not seeking the
real Truth of the Bible. You are close. It is mathematical, but then if it is Adam's story, then he must be a mathematical creation. May I remind you that mathematics limits. May I remind you that measurement is required (with decision) to create in physical reality and that it requires an observer.
And that the observer is entangled in the quantum state of that creation.
Begin with Adam and you will see that all of reality is entangled in Adam's quantum state as the first and only observer. Therefore Adam is still, all of physical reality. The sleeping, dreaming observer. So where is reality now?
ANSWER: Dear Jane,
Miss Klingon, Adam is dead in a sleeping angel. But clearly you are in the delta quadrant.
Blessings form earth
QUESTION24: Dear Mr. Ritchie:
20 days and counting. Getting nervous? After the last failed prediction you recalculated, what are your plans this time? Is there room for another calculation?
ANSWER: Hello Mark,
No, actually I am not nervous at the moment. As regards what we will do if we are wrong, as before we will keep trying until we are right or we die.
The third and forth alternatives are that someone logically refutes what we have done, or that we discover a giant hole in our work. Neither of these has yet occurred, so let me ask you:
What will you do if we are right ??
RESPONSE: Dear Gordon:
Thanks for your response to my last e-mail. What will I do if your prediction is correct? I will eat my dirtiest pair of sweat socks. Then I will cancel an office picnic we have scheduled for August 24, and a family trip to the White Mountains of New Hampshire (USA) planned for August 25-27. Then, if able, I will spend the next several days after the U.N takeover of the world studying your website in its entirety, then try to fly to England to join your group (if you'll have me). Of course the U.N. may not allow it, in which case I will go buy as much ice cream and hot fudge as possible and eat myself to death.
I am however quite confident that your prediction will not come to pass for the following reasons:
1. The Bible is not written in a code to be mathematically deciphered. God authored the Bible in such as way that anyone who wants to know the truth can understand it, complex formulas are simply not there.
2. Every single prediction ever made concerning the end-times has been wrong. You Russelites (JW's and LW's), starting with Charles Russel himself, have been particularly outstanding in making inorrect predictions. Why? Because you start with incorrect assumptions (that the Bible was written in a code). I must give you credit for not joining the millenium crowd. Talk about failed predictions. I wonder how many separate groups made
end-time predictions based on the millenium, hundreds I'll bet. I can't rembmer if it was the Russelites or Millerites who, near the end of the 19th century (1870's?), sold all their belongings, quit their jobs and went to wait for the return of the Lord, only to be dissapointed, and penniless.
I have an idea Gordon. Why not liquidate all of your belongings and send the money to me? You can rest assured it will be used to serve my Lord.
If you ever have an opportunity, go to: http://mdchellis.freeyellow.com/index.htm
then click "Do you know God?" I wrote this a few years ago concerning God and His Holy Scriptures.
Anyway, keep me informed about your next set of predictions, I am very interested in you folks.
RESPONSE: Dear Gordon:
November 20 huh? Since its less than one month from today I'll put my sweat socks in a crock pot (slow cooker) just in case. They might taste good with some potatoes and carrots mixed in.
I didn't realize until I looked at your updated webpage that you think you are one of the riders of the four horses. Mary Baker Eddy of the so-called Christian Science movement held a similar view of herself. I think she thought she was the woman clothed with the sun noted in Revelation 12:1.
I have never actually ridden a horse, but I have gone pony trekking in Wales. You do realise of course that if (or should I say when) we finally get the date of the expansion of the UN security council correct, then it will be confirmed that I am in fact the one described as follows:
9 "Here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: The seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top (Revelation 17:9).
Although we do actually understand this statement in both the event symbolism and the account symbolism - see www.truebiblecode.com/understanding159.com. Of course if I do not ever get this right then I may be referred to in the future in somewhat less flattering terms. There is no need to suggest any right now however!
Make sure you put a sock cube, sorry I meant stock cube, in your lovely stew.
Blessings and bon appetit!
QUESTION25: From: Alexis Harriott
I hope this is the correct address, I couldn't find another on your very extensive site.
I found it fascinating and can in no way claim to have read even half of it,
its definately something I will return to regularly to try and understand. Also I find your style of prose difficult - but then I suspect your education standard is somewhat higher than mine.
So as a laymay and god believer (and fearer) but sceptic I would like your views on:-
1/. Why did you choose the NWT bible, have you actually checked it verbatim. I believe that the bible as we know it today was compiled/edited (not written) some hundreds of years later and has been in the domain of the catholic church for centuries and in my view that mean severe censoship/editing in and out/alteration. How can we be sure the version we have is as it was intended.
2/. Your are convinced that the UN is the big bad boy - What about the EU. I personally think this organisation has far greater plans of rulership/control of masses of people (communism in my political book) and as its power is increasing whilst the people ignore and bury their heads in the sand, may well in the future wage war on powers such as the US etc. It is well known how much France and Germany resent to US's role has 'world police' (we know just what great/kind people the Germans have been and how brave the French can be - NOT).
3/. Any significance in the fact that Adam/Eve/John the Baptist/Jesus and probably other main 'characters' were all born at the same time of year (Sept/Oct).
4/. If my bible recollections are correct wasn't Ham black, so in view of the 'curse' put upon him and his people by Noah, is there any significance that Africa and its people have always been and will always be a total waste of space in its contribution to the world.
5/. After Armageddon and after the 1,000 years of gods rule will it all revert back to the way it has in the last 6,000 years. It seems that god has now, several times - Adam, Noah, Jesus - given us an opportunity of redemption, which being man we have cocked up big time with sin, only to be punished for being what he made us. Why doesn't a/. get rid of Satan on a permanent basis and b/. remove the sin gene from mankind.
6/. If there is one true God (Jehovah) and many other gods (angels) is there an similarity to Greek ideas with all the gods arguing and causing mankind's demise whilst Zeus (or Jupiter) looks on? (I'm no expert on Greek gods, hope I got the right one).
7/. 'Man' and 'the man'. Would this mean a new bloodline? Have you read the Holy Blood and the Holy Grail by Michael Baigent? They maintain that it still exists today and it will be revealed to the world in the near future (Armageddon?).
Hope these thoughts are not too stupid and look forward to hearing from you.
PS. My parents are JW's and I was brought up as one until I chose at about 14 to leave, this was because I found the average JW to be a simpleton, I agree with you that God would always want you/man to ask questions and search for truth, the only people who should fear this are those that don't know it (the truth).
I like your questions.
 We choose the NWT because in our experience it is more accurate than the King James, The NIV, the RSV etc. But we do not rely on it. We rely on Greek and Hebrew interlinear bibles which we check the NWT against on a verse by verse basis whilst we are interpreting any passage of scripture. See section  of the site.
 I could not agree more with your assessment of the EU. The French and the Germans are our economic enemies who pose as our friends and saviours purely so that they can be more effective adversaries. Whereas our true friends and saviours have been and are the Americans. We do not believe that the UN is the big bad boy. We, like you, believe that the EU is worse, more corrupt, entirely dishonest in its thinly disguised goals of true imperialism under the cover of mutual economic benefit. However the UN is to become the 8th world power not the EU. This does not mean that the UN is awful. The 7th World power was/is the USA/UK political/military power in scriptural terms. All that is happening is that Satan chooses the fastest car, the best football team the most attractive woman, i.e. the most powerful human military group as his own in general, and the other demons get the also rans. Since the UN is becoming that group, Satan will take it, if he hasn't already.
The UN could do great good for the world if it remembers to remain a judge and a policeman and a world wide social services department. But it will not. It will become a king, and a king answerable to no one. And then, sometime after it has become king, every lying megalomanic despot on the planet will wish to get involved. These people will corrupt it. We have seen the beginning of this corruption in the farcical UN anti racism conference in South Africa. Which was conducted on the doorstep of Zimbabwe, a country which is overtly committing ethnic cleansing against white farmers. A fact deliberately ignored by those who call themselves 'anti-racist'. Who are not anti racist but have the not particularly well hidden agenda of lets get what we can from the West because they think and work and we are too lazy to do either.
The reason that God split our languages up at Babel was to prevent world domination by one group. Our differing languages are God's monopolies and mergers commission for the World in political terms. They are a protection for us. We all know how abusive a commercial monopoly can become (Microsoft today - British Telecom of 15 years ago). Imagine a worldwide political monopoly. It will be catastrophic.
 Of course, Adam was born on 4027Tishri10 Jesus was born on 2Tishri10 BC The one mirrors the other.
John was born in 2Nisan BC and Eve was 'born' in 3997Heshvan BC. They fall into the pattern in different ways.
 Absolutely incorrect. Ham was actually the firstborn - see [Intro19]. He lost his birthright to Shem. Ham was black, yes, but it was Canaan who was actually cursed, Ham's son. Canaan was the father of the Canaanites whose modern day descendants are the Palestinians as far as I can see. The blacks are not a cursed people. The Palestinians are descendants of a cursed people. But when the sons of Israel themselves were released from the curse of the law, the sons of Canaan, the Palestinians were released from their curse, because Jesus became a curse himself, being hung on a stake not for the Jews alone, but for every living man and woman.
Blacks do have different strengths and weakness to the whites however. When we both can co-operate as in Man United or dare I say it the England football team, then we do well together. Both blacks and whites need to recognise this. We must not fractionalise. However, and this is only an observation, the environment for the ransoming visit of Jesus and for his first presence was the nation of Israel (Semitic from Shem). The environment for the second presence has been the UK/USA world power (Japethic from Japheth). God does not appear to have chosen Hamites as a culture into which he might send his son. But fortunately for the sons of Ham they are global today and I know that blacks are a part of Jesus' body just as whites and easterners are.
 God does get rid of Satan in 2008. The JWs believe that Satan comes back at the end of the 1,000 years but the scriptures do not support this. Satan has very nearly finished his job. In the 1,000 year system, we are in the secondary school, we grow up spiritually to attain the character of Jesus but not his individual personality if you see what I mean. In other words we should be able to resist sin as effectively as he did. We will not as a group revert to primary school behaviour. Those that do so revert, if they revert irretrievably, will be killed during the 1,000 year judgement day.
We need the sin gene in order for us to be innoculated against future sin. This system is part of our innoculation. (Actually the sin gene is the innoculation, for innoculations are waekened forms of the disease -ed). You cannot fight something that you have not experienced. It is not God's purpose, although it is his desire, for everyone to be saved. It is his purpose for everyone to have the opportunity to choose to resist sin and seek love and truth. If we show him that this is what we want he will do the rest.
 Yes. We actually know some of the details of these heavenly arguments, which actually the earth was put in place to sort out once and for all. They will be in the next issue of the true bible code.
 Let me tell you a sacred secret because your insight and intelligence merit it in my opinion. Adam was born by immaculate conception to a pre adamic woman. Just as Jesus was to an Adamic woman, Mary.
I agree absolutely with your PS. Well done for loving the truth outside the JWs. It is a hard path to follow, but no one said that serving God was easy.
QUESTION26: I won't bother with all the inconsistencies and contradictions that litter the Bible.
I'm just relishing the prospect of your foolish predictions being proved the lunacy they are in the next few weeks. I can't wait.
So you think the world has suffered a financial meltdown already? If your evidence is that flimsy, then you'll probably claim there's been a war when two boys slap each other in the street. I can't wait for you FOOLS to be exposed as the deluded monkeys you are.
Let's bet on it. You and your God against me and sanity. What will you do when you're proved completely, utterly and totally WRONG?
Your arrogance is astounding. You, me, all of us - we're here by accident and we add up to nothing more than a handful of dust. Sorry if that seems a bit depressing, but get used to it. You are, as they say, a long time dead.
I'll see you in 2009.
ANSWER: Dear very sceptical person,
You are the one who is a monkey according to Darwin, not us who believe in a creator. We may indeed be wrong, but at least we tried. And which advance made by any mankind was not the object of mockery such as yours? Every new idea, every departure from the majority view has been ridiculed. And when, and on many occassions, the minority view is found to be true, how many of those ridiculers apologise for their dream stealing inspiration stiffling ill thought out herd mentality? Not a one.
Even though you may not accept that your views are dictated by a heart full
of fear of the consequences of the existence of a being rather more intelligent
than yourself (and I am not referring to the monkey species here), I know from
experience of these sort of remarks in many circumstances that fear of there
being a God is indeed behind them. And this fear is irrational, because God
quite obviously loves men, since he created women and vice versa.
Look at the face of a woman (or man) you love and tell me there is no God. As Isaac Newton said (and he was no fool) How did blind chance create the human eye? From whence did it deduce its refraction?
You do not know there is no God, you just hope there is no God so that you will not be held to account. But your fears are misplaced. He is not a supreme court judge, who makes decisions partially, he is the supreme judge and his decisions are made in perfect justice for the genuine benefit of all of his children. But like the book, the bible - full or errors which God failed to see but which you found out - says:
Blessed are the pure in heart for they will see God (Not the goody two shoes, but those whose heart is not clouded by fear)
Lords' Witnesses (at least for another 3 weeks!)
See you in the Kingdom of God in 2009!
"You do not know there is a God, you just hope there is a God so that you will not have to confront you're own insignificance."
The clock is ticking on the masquerade.
See you down the pub in 2009.
RESPONSE: If you are correct then I will buy you a pint in 2009 if the EU have not abolished British pubs by then.
Sorry to press you on deadlines (or should that be lifelines?) but is it worth starting a lengthy novel now?
As Def Leppard once said:
Are you getting it?
Yours in blissful ignorance
Chris the Monkey
We have found a bug in our decoding and recalculated. See the Saturday Telegraph and the Sunday Times this weekend, Main News section for our latest interpretations.
In a sentence we were wrong. But if at first you don't succeed - Become a local councillor!
Gordon the prototype angel
RESPONSE: Gordon, It's a bugs life,
I see the goalposts are on the move again. I look forward to some significant
revelations over the weekend.
For significant Revelations and a brief History of the UN please visit
The master of overlooked significances.
RESPONSE: Gordon, Is my watch wrong?
 The UN becomes the head of the world, the King of the world, the ruler of the world, 7 years before Armageddon, in 2001Nisan (26th March 2001 - 24th April 2001), these are the 7 heads of the beast, a head for a year.
It's now 27 April, so this must either be a very quiet world takeover, or the mumbo-jumbo is beginning to unravel.
I'll keep you informed as the rest of your predictions prove unfounded.
The 7 heads evidently are a head for a year accurate to the year rather than to the month. In fact if one takes them as regnal years then we have the accession year of 2001Nisan to 2002Nisan and the 7 regnal years starting 2002Nisan, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008Nisan. It only rules for 14 days in 2008, but this would still be its regnal year according to Hebrew Regnal calendar mechanics
That's easy to rejig. If nothing happens before May 25th we are in a lot more crap.
Thanks for your diligence in this matter. But your condemnation is yet premature.
RESPONSE: Gordon, Does God drive a Nisan?
Remind me - are we still on schedule for the end of the world, or can we settle back into our quiet human insignificance now?
He drives a 4 wheel drive multidirectional chariot surrounded by Cherubs with 6 wings 4 faces and a large number of eyes according to Ezekiel. Perhaps this will be Nisan's next Model, more of an off planet than an off road vehicle.
Yes, it is nail biting stuff here at: We are so clever that we made up a whole code for the bible ourselves and deduced the whole past and future chronology of mankind from abstract symbolisms which, by an incredible combination of random chance, opportunistic interpretation of scriptural ambiguity, and access to the history of other men's efforts in this area, gave us a coherent logical explanation of thousands of hitherto misunderstood Christian conundrums.
Quite a feat for a descendant of a monkey would you not agree? Mind you incredible combinations of random chance have the credance of the majority as being their father.
But as I said if nothing happened by May 25th we would be in a lot more crap.
However this is what happenned...
There was a prophecy that we had, that we have discussed for around 3 months at our meetings and that I emailed to a couple of our readers which said that 450 days after we started publicising our stuff worldwide God would indicate his acceptance of it in an antetypical sending down of fire from the heavens to consume our antetypical bull (1 Kings 18). The Bull stands for power in scripture.
We did not advertise this one because getting things accurate to the month is hard enough (as we have conclusively proved!) This was the one we kept secret, which was a further reason for confidence in our prophetic interpretations.
But we started publicising ourselves on January 25th 2000, 450 days of the biblical calendar after this was May 8th 2001. So I sat down to watch the News that night waiting for the announcement that the UN had taken over the world and what I got was: President Bush was commencing his hard sell of his star wars militarization of space and he was going to discuss it with basically the Nuclear powers. He started the sell on May 8th in NATO's Headquarters in Brussels and there was a video of some star wars machine blowing up something in space and a lot of happy american military guys. Then during the next few days his people visited the main powers (the 10 kings in bible symbolism).
I did not think too much of this until I realised that Star Wars is basically fire from the heavens. Then I realised that one of our main premises is the the 2nd horseman of the apocalypse, WAR started riding in 2000 August and that in his first year we should see a major escalation in WAR.
But the 'official' militarization of space is an unprecedented escalation in WAR for mankind. So one could say that this is indeed evidence that the horseman is now riding. We had imagined a Nuclear terrorism act like in the movies.
Then we thought, well, Armageddon is the earthly manifestation of a heavenly war, and star wars is a heavenly war and well perhaps God is taking the position that when mankind starts putting weapons in his territory (the heavens)he will end the current phase of the experiment (This being a type of 2001, the movie, concept only with laser weapons in space rather than the monolith on the moon).
The problem with this is that I am not convinced that the US do not have nuclear stuff in space already - But who knows?
So really I have convinced myself that we did have a confirmation from God on the exact day upon which we were expecting it. But this confirmation is not good enough as yet to convince outsiders or complete sceptics.
With prophetic fulfilments you give yourself as large a lattitude as possible and you can take an event such as the UN taking over as being a crucial decision in the process that leads to the take over, or a crucial milestone in the takeover process, or the final day of takeover if there is to be such a day.
So that is the extent of the good news from our standpoint. But the bad news is that item 2, the 666 months from the UN's birthday has not resulted in the UN having total financial control of trade as far as I am aware. So now 2 out of our 3 prophecies remain unfulfilled. The first one is not a problem, it can be fulfilled any time until March 15th 2002, the end of this Biblical year.
The 666 months has got me beat. Perhaps I was wrong, or perhaps things are going on behind the scenes. I do not know.
The last remaining prophecy is basically that 82/83 months before 2008Nisan 10 kings rule the UN which rules the world (taken from one 12th - one hour - of the lifespan - the day - of the league of Nations/United Nations, assuming the UN ends in 2008Nisan). I was thinking that the Star Wars project might galvanize all the nuclear powers (who more or less will be these 10 kings, possibly through a kind of expanded UN security council) into deciding that this shield should be under a UN control. If so then we pretty much have the UN as the world King. Since nuclear war is then effectively controlled by the UN.
This still appears to me to be our best bet. But then Jeffords went and defected which may scupper Star Wars altogether.
Let me say from a personal point of view that Star Wars is an idiotic program. If I wanted to blow up New York I would not launch an ICBM at them, I would put a small Russian device in the bottom of a powerboat and well I think you can guess the rest. This would be my security concern if I was trying to protect the Big Apple.
You can tell by the length of this email that I do not really have the answer yet. So I would have to say that we are 40:15 to you.
The last gasp on our three advertised prophecies is June 23rd to June 24th 6pm (Jerusalem Time). This being 82 Biblical Hebrew months before 2008Nisan.
There is one possible escape for us and that is that we should count everything backwards from the end of Armageddon rather than from the start. The end is 5 months after its beginning. This buys us another 5 months. But the UN receives it's authority as King from Satan according to our scriptural reasoning (notwithstanding its good works as judge and
policeman) and Satan's authority ends in 2008Nisan at the start of Armageddon and the 1,000 year Kingdom of God.
So I am still expecting something in the next month.
I must say I hate watching the news and hoping for some sort of global catastrophy in order that UN has to take over and the world may know that God has accepted our work. So I hope instead that some threat or perceived threat and some political manoeuvring leads to the UN takeover.
Blessings from the great significance himself through his loving son
RESPONSE: Dear Chris
I have received an empty email from you, what has happened. Are you lost for words? Have you run out of refutations or are you simply aghast at the wisdom of our Website?
I just thought I'd remind you that nothing is happening.
And what are you doing working on a Sunday?
Actually something has happened. Check out page 4 of the main news of the Sunday Times, 8th July. There is an article about how the security council of the UN may be expanded to have 10 members soon, (Adding Germany, Japan, India/Pakistan, Nigeria/other African country and a 'wild card') this is one of our two prophecies from our ad on the 1st July.
We have been saying this will occur for years.
Why 10 members?? Well, you will find the answer in Revelation 17 and on
Of course it hasn't actually happened yet. But the article is a good indication that it will.
I know its sad me working on a Sunday. But our emails are always good entertainment.
Looks like we may be drinking in the Kingdom of God in 2009 after all. If we are I am providing the drink - there may not be a currency. I imagine it will be more like star trek.
Putting your faith in the Sunday Times strikes me as even more ludicrous than believing in centuries-old myths and then reinterpreting them to suit your own fantasies.
Still, time will tell. My pub of choice for our down-to-earth celebration of insignificance is the Harlequin, near Keighley in West Yorkshire.
See you there in due course.
All the best
RESPONSE: It's been a while ... but hey, we're still alive and kicking up the
dust of insignificance.
I did hear that the Devil told God he was going to destroy the world with a giant tidal wave. God said: Oh yeah? You and tsunami?
Let me know if I can't start reading long books again.
Yours in peace
RESPONSE: Nice one,
Please choose your favourite method of global destruction:
 Terminal nuclear war
 Global warming to the point where the climate gives up on us
 Meteors from outer space
 The shortsighted pursuit of narrow self interest of each individual kills the collective
 We all become so dumbed down and stupid that we are conquered by donkeys
 Competition increases until only 1 human is left standing in the global boxing ring who then dies of loneliness
 The bureaucrats over legislate to the point where it is no longer economic to breath
 George W. Bush is unable to rig the next presidential election so he ends it all.
 All farm animals fail to meet the UN criteria for export so they become uneconomic so we kill them all and then we starve to death.
 Eventually everyone wants to be a manager with a clipboard and refuses to be a worker. So no more work is done, so we all starve and freeze to death. But we do die with very high status in the community.
 All of the above??
RESPONSE: November 20th 2001
More wriggling and squirming to make the facts bend to your theories. How
many times do you have to be wrong before you give in?
I have £100 to give to the non-religious charity of your choosing which says that 20/11/01 will pass without the UN security council expanding to 10 permanent members. If I am proved right, you owe Oxfam one penny.
Oh, and by the way - where is your proof that OBL was responsible for the attack on the twin towers? Or is he fingered in the big black book of yours? If you have evidence, perhaps you should bring it forward - the material world could do with knowing.
We're silly men doing silly things, just as we always have done, just as we always will do. Leave it at that and, er, count your blessings.
We will give Oxfam £100 if we are wrong, but we do not expect to be getting our wallets out.
I suggest you make your cheque out to Orbis now, it might save you any last minute financial embarrassment! Orbis cures cataracts in the 3rd world. They do for people's physical vision what we attempt to do for people's spiritual vision.
In any event, whatever happens on November 20th at least one good cause will get £100!
Sorry can't help with Sin Laden. But I can tell you this, the 2nd horseman of the apocalypse (war) started riding a year before the attack, and started taking peace away from the earth with the Twin Towers attack. Now do you want the bad news or the bad news?
Well the bad news is that Bush, the man who was so desperate to be the first to declare War in the 21st century, will have his fill of war, because the 2nd horseman, having taken peace away form the earth, does not give it back. Well not until 2008 anyway.
However, Sin Laden is not the 2nd horseman of the apocalypse (Jesus is actually).
However whether the 2nd horseman of the apocalypse has West Yorkshire on his itinerary I do not know.
QUESTION27: False Prophet,
There has been no war - the un did not take over control of the planet in
March - April 2001. April & May 2001 have come & gone and I can still
buy and sell without U.N. Control.
You are false prophets and unreliable witnesses. See Proverbs 14:5. Proverbs 19:5 Matthew 24:11 You clearly do not know what you are talking about.
Suggest you read Matthew 24:36 and 42-44.
ANSWER: Hello Andrew,
You may be right that we do not know what we are talking about but that does not make us either false prophets or unreliable witnesses.
A false prophet declares that he is speaking on behalf of God and then makes a prophecy. We made it clear from the outset that we might be wrong. This makes us an honest and possibly true but in this instance incorrect prophets.
If you apply the judgement you have made to us to anyone and everyone who interprets a scripture incorrectly then unless that person was God (who makes no mistakes) you would condemn every bible interpreter who ever lived. Jesus came to save not to condemn, it is Satan who wished to condemn all mankind in a vain attempt to save his skin.
Lord's (not totally reliable) witnesses
QUESTION28: Dear Sir,
I recently visited your website, and although found it quite difficult to understand, could tell that an enormous amount of effort has been put in by yourselves. I don't know whether I actually believe in your decodings, but I noticed that a few of the prophecies took place around Tuesday 11th Sept., the date of the attack on America by an as of yet, unknown terrorist group. I was wondering if it may have anything to do with your prophecies. Thank you.
Yes it does. We have been prophesying an act of War or a war situation or unofficial war which will lead to the 10 future security council members having one mind/thought/opinion, which they currently have:
And the ten horns that you saw mean ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings one hour with the beast. These have one opinion/thought, and so they give their power and authority to the wild beast (Revelation 7:12,13).
This one opinion/thought/mind is 'stop gobal terrorism together'. We have been saying for nearly two years that the second horseman of the apocalypse, War, has been riding since 2000Elul (August/September) so that some War situtation will be the trigger for the UN (the beast) to take over the World as the 8th king of the world in biblical terms, having been given authority from the expanded security council who are of one opinion.
Well, the twin towers on 11 September was that trigger because the 10 future permanent members of the Security council now are of just one opinion.
We are now prophesying that the UN security council will expand to 10 permanent members on 22/23 October 2001 (2001Heshvan1). We do not know as yet who the 5 new permanent members will be, but Tony Blair wants Germany, Japan, India and 2 others.
If this indeed occurs on October 22nd then our chronology is confirmed as accurate to the day.
What we deduce will happen now is that the situation will escalate presumably because Bush will over-react seeking not only justice but also vengeance, then there will be a further reaction from Bin Laden or whoever perpetrated the twin towers genocide. The situation will get too large too quickly and the UN will have to take over the whole deal to calm things down.
Simply put, the UN has 10 horns and 7 heads. The 10 horns are 10 years of power from 1991 at the end of the gulf war to 2001 (today), the 7 heads are 7 years of power from 2001 until 2008 which is Armageddon.
But we have gone further than this annual overview to the very day. It remains to be seen whether we will at last be vindicated publicly by events.
Blessings and thanks for your interest
QUESTION29: I requested and received a copy of your "The True Bible Code" booklet. The book states that the publishers are The Lord's witnesses. Could you be more specific. Who are you? And who are the person or persons responsible for this publication? Please be specific.
ANSWER: Hello Robert,
We are a new Christian Church, a new Christian religion.
We are the church of the second new covenant
We are the church of the 24th covenant between God and man through the master mediator Jesus
We are the 4th and last Faithful and discreet slave of Matthew 24/Luke12
We are the 6th congregation of Revelation 3, the congregation of Philadelphia
We are the church of the covenant of Keturah/Rachel [ed - Rachel actually]
We are the second of the two witnesses of Revelation 11
We are the 4th and last wall of the 4 walled temple of all 4 Christian religions
We are the church of the 11th coming of the Christ, the 4th coming after his sacrifice
We are the first of the 2 fishes in the feeding of the 5,000
We are the first of the 2 talents given to the slave of Matthew 25
The writer of this email is largely (but not totally) responsible for all our publications
I am the 4th Elijah
The 4th cornerstone of the temple of all Christianity
The angel of the 6th congregation of Revelation 3, the star of Philadelphia
The messenger and mediator of the second new covenant for the earthly part of the Kingdom of God
The first of two presidents of FDS4
The first horseman of the apocalypse
The antetypical Joseph, Daniel for this time.
And well it goes on, but if I continue further I might be accused of showing off.
But even with all of this spiritual status who will listen to the voice crying out in the wilderness??
Or shall I be more correct as to say Jehovaswitnesses??? You people are
correct in some things and way off base in others which make you half
correct....My God is always correct and I do believe we are warned against
trying to predict the exact day and that only God knows this time although we
are afforded the right to know the season...Every Christian knows were in the
season so tell me where is your revelation..???...Your prophecy's have been way
off base in the past as I am sure they will be in the future for God also tells
us that his prophecy's are ALWAYS 100 % correct and to turn away from false
prophets...That in turn would include you. You have used the bombing of the
world trade center to further your cause and to preach your false message to
those who suffer...This in itself is a sin that you someday will answer
for....The one we fear most is the antichrist whom rises from the 10 nations as
a peacemaker until a period of 3 and a half years of which he then takes
control..That again would put your predictions of total military and political
by 3 and a half years...And let us not forget the rapture...I did not see that part mentioned....Is it any wonder that people don't know where to turn to..And you have done nothing but add to the confusion.
Please do not make disgusting false accusations. We placed our advert before the bombing, but USA today did not run it because of the bombing for a week. The UK Sunday Times advert ran on September 2nd.
However we have been prophesying for a long time that an act of War or terror will lead to the UN taking over the world.
Today the 10 kings have one thought/opinion as recorded by John in Revelation
17:13. The next step is the expansion of the security council to 10 permanent
members we believe. But let God declare if we are right or not on October
22nd/23rd. If we are wrong we are not false prophets because we, unlike you,
admit that we are not 100% right. If you are 100% right then you are God. But
God does not make false accusations, oh dear you have failed to measure up to
the yardstick with which you measure us. Grow up. Bible interpretation is
something that improves as we get nearer the end. If we have everything 100%
right today then what is the point of reading the bible tomorrow??
Oh gee..Ok I will grow up..Did I hit a nerve...Where in my note did I say I was a 100 % right..I did say Gods prophets were 100 % correct if the revelation came from God....Watch your temper...Tis not a sign of Godliness.
Prophets of God write the bible, we are not inspired to write it, we are helped by God to understand it as is everyone who actually makes the effort so to do. Those who deride such efforts get their help from other sources. We are not writing holy scriptures inspired by God we are interpreting such scriptures with his help. Therefore it is an abuse to place a yardstick of 100% accuracy on bible interpretation. No one can continually achieve such a success, even with God's help, except perhaps the infallible Pope.
I ask again, if we have 100% understood the whole bible and we make no mistakes today, then what is the point of reading it tomorrow?
Putting this more simply, the holy spirit inspired prophets to write a
perfect book for imperfect men to wrestle with and that is what we are doing.
The bible was not written for the holy spirit to read and for it to then
interpret and plant a perfect inspired interpretation in the modern day prophet.
The only nation to get inspired holy utterance was the physical nation of
Israel. Paul confirms this. Since the bible is written for the Gentile as well,
it is written for us to work at. And working at it means making mistakes. The
holy spirit will help us in this work, if we make the effort. It will not itself
do the job which Jesus asked us to do for him, namely:
Keep on asking, keep on knocking keep on seeking
Blessings from God thru his firstborn
Very nice reply to say the least and I agree with you on this 100%...Thank you for taking your time to clear me up on this...Yes you are correct that we have a right if not a duty as Christians to seek out the truth and the truth is really what I wanted.
Did I mentioned I love your website...Thank you again for the nice reply to one that may not know as much as you do although I love to study prophecy.
Yours in Christ
QUESTION31: Dear Gordon,
Sorry about worrying, I feel like a right schmuck! The problem for me is that in the past I've made a complete mess of my life, making decisions that were bad in hindsight. For instance, do you remember that I said I was gay, or thought that I was. I was easily led because I was weak and I was fed up at being seen as a freak do-gooder because of my upbringing in the JWs which made me an outsider. So, good decision, make yourself more of a freak. Afterwards I realised I'd never been gay, I was just still feeling like an outsider and in those days being gay was just an extension of those feelings. I remember thinking during my first marriage, what on earth were you playing at?
My first marriage was another stupid decision, marrying the first person that wanted to marry me because I thought no-one else would fancy me. Every time I felt vulnerable, for instance during the Gulf War or when my first marriage ended I turned to the JWs without ever taking it all the way, as soon as I was stronger I turned away, I knew at the time I was doing this and some years ago I decided that this had got to stop and I began thinking from a strong viewpoint, trying to get things straight in my head, proving the existence of God to myself and getting to the point where I needed to do something about it and then your book turned up.
Now I know I'm talking about me here, but the point I'm trying to make is that I didn't want to make another bad decision. Your book spoke to me both through the heart and the mind and if I'd been completely honest, I'd have joined you there and then. For me the Bible suddenly expanded exponentially, both in love and beauty, the immense love of Jehovah and the beauty of his divine plan. These were the important things, the dates seemed secondary, required only to properly prepare us for the hard times ahead without fear and also to reach out to those that need proof in order to save as many as possible as well as demonstrating the perfectly immense power of God's word, but as these were irrevocably linked, then one failing casted doubt on the whole.
When your predictions didn't come true the doubt crept in big time for a while; then I'd pray and a more considered sense of calm and peace came over me. I e-mailed you before this calm set in and regretted it afterwards. This time (Oct 22/23), using the Bible I couldn't see any room for manoeuvre unless the date of Armageddon was wrong. The only conclusion was that the length of the day of the Wild Beast was too long. Now of course you've seen it as a historical rather than a biblical miscalculation which makes more sense. With the way things are progressing, November 20th seems far more realistic, but as you say, this is the best calculation at the moment. What I did do is make some enquiries about the JWs, finding out about them being affiliated to the UN as a NGO (as you point out) and also an article saying that it is now OK for a JW to have a blood transfusion as long as they repent afterwards and I was thrown into complete confusion, 'is there no-one who has any truth anymore?' I thought, well it must be OK with aforethought to go and murder people I don't like as long as I repent afterwards!
I must admit that I had left the study of the True Bible Code on the back burner because I was worried about being mislead too much, that to achieve your predicted increase in size, time was running out. I suppose I?m a natural worrier who should follow my conscience more. I think I've analysed every sentence we had when we met either to prove or disprove your work. I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing, one can analyse things too much, do you not think? Another reason was that my boss, who originally sent for your book after your fax arrived in our office, took me aside and said he wished that he'd never sent for it because I was constantly reading it either in its hard copy form or from my computer, when I should have been working.
I feel like a child in need of guidance in the sight of God, that this is all
too much for me to cope with. I thank him constantly for his love and support,
maybe I should thank him for his patience as well and I'd like to thank you for
your patience too. Anyway, I am going to make the effort to come to one of your
meetings as I have many, probably irrelevant questions that cause a little
concern, and some questions about your understanding on some finer points and as
you said you have many more understandings that I'd love to learn about.
Thanks for your kind attention,
PS: As an aside I wondered if the mark of the beast on the right hand could be someone who is a card carrying member of the UN as you would join any political party. What happens if you refuse to do this?
I do look forward to you e-mails and hope you do go ahead with a newsletter.
ANSWER: Hi David,
I have read your email again, and you have an excellent grasp of the situation. You understand the prophecies, you understand the code, you understand that the JW's have screwed up and been rejected. What you lack, and you are completely honest about it is courage. And do not be ashamed of having doubts, or of any mistakes that you have made in your life. Look we have made 3 mistakes so far in trying to get this date right and here they are:
Mistake number 1: We thought that the UN would have taken over by the beginning of the old BLC year on 2001Nisan1
Mistake number 2: We thought that the UN would have taken over by the beginning of the new BLC year on 2001Elul1
Mistake number 3: We thought that the league of Nations covenant ended with start of WWII
These mistakes are the steps on our road to the truth, they are not things to be ashamed of as many people are trying to convince us to be. We are proud of our attempt to serve God and you for your part should be proud of your attempts to serve him and to discover your own point of view, whether they 'succeed' or not, and whether they are seen as 'mistakes' with the benefit of hindsight or not.
David, life is a catalogue of mistakes, and the bible is a full catalogue of every mistake that it is possible for a man to make. You are doing better than 5 million JWs at this point! I think that puts you at the top of the premier league in terms of spiritual success. In fact given the scarcity of LWs at this time, your understandings of the bible put you in the category of Olympic finalist in terms of the mental agility, self belief and faith required to understand and to continue to learn about the true bible code at this time.
As regards your Boss, he is right, you should not study the bible or the bible code on his time. So study it in your time.
God is one who blesses effort, and blesses endurance and look what he is doing for mankind. He is showing them convincingly through our repeated mistakes that they can decode the bible just as well if not better than we can. And that is precisely the message he wants to give to the world.
He wrote the book for every man. It is his will, for a fact, that every one of his sons studies his book until he sees the code, and then makes sacrificial smoke, plays the harp, sings the psalms, and does every other biblical euphemism for wrestling with the angels and with the firstborn angel himself to grasp old understandings and to form new ones.
For our brain cells chewing on his word is the sacrificial smoke, the restful
odour, that he delights in today. Our thoughts being consumed by his holy book,
not in fear, not in awe, but in calculated reasoned logic are the psalms he
wants to hear from his sons right now. For there is no music sweeter to our
Father than the sound of AHA that is what God is saying, now I've got the
meaning of that scripture that has been plaguing me for years. For God is the
greatest teacher in the universe and we are the most reluctant pupils he has
ever had. Most of us never even turn up for one lesson in our whole lives.
But you. You have turned up for many lessons, and so there is your success. And of course it is the greatest success that a man can have. And it is not only a success for you, no, it is a success for God, for Jesus and for every angel in the holy spirit. For look at this great lesson from our eternal father, the one who is just waiting to adopt you as his everlasting son, having paid for you with everything he was and everything he had:
7 I tell you that thus there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner that repents than over ninety-nine righteous ones who have no need of repentance (Luke 15:7).