Baptism

In the case of the 2NC saints, we will not be taking a Census to determine when the 12,001th person in each tribe is reached. The angels count God's money, we do not.

12 Whenever you take the sum of the sons of Israel as a census of them, then they must each give a ransom for his soul to Jehovah. When taking-a-count of them, that there may come to be no plague upon them when taking-a-count of them.
13 This is what all those will give who pass over to those numbered: a half shekel by the shekel of the holy place. 20
gerahs equal a shekel. A half shekel is the contribution to Jehovah.
14 Everyone passing over to those registered from twenty years old and upward will give Jehovah's contribution.
15 The rich should not give more, and the lowly must not give less than the half shekel, in order to give Jehovah's contribution so as to make atonement for your souls.
16 And you must take the silver money of the atonement from-with [t)m] [the] sons of Israel and give it in behalf of the service of the tent of meeting, that it may indeed serve as a memorial before Jehovah for the sons of Israel, to make atonement for your souls (Exodus 30).

Census (1), Gerah (1), Shekel (5), Plague (1), Ransom (1), Soul (3), Sum (1), Sons (3), only the absolute in a multiple construct is not counted?, Money (1), Contribution (3). No countable noun is repeated an even number of times and so there is no greater meaning to this scripture.

Every prospective 2NC King needs a spiritual virginity test. If the candidate deliberately misrepresents his virginity he will be committing spiritual suicide in the manner of Ananias and Sapphira.

1 However, a certain man, Ananias by name, together with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession
2 and secretly held back some of the price, his wife also knowing about it, and he brought just a part and deposited it at the feet of the apostles.
3 But Peter said: Ananias, why has Satan emboldened you to play false to the holy spirit and to hold back secretly some of the price of the field?
4 As long as it remained with you did it not remain yours, and after it was sold did it not continue in your control? Why was it that you purposed such a deed as this in your heart? You have played false, not to men, but to God.
5 On hearing these words Ananias fell down and expired. And great fear came over all those hearing of it.
6 But the younger men rose, wrapped him in cloths, and carried him out and buried him.
7 Now after an interval of about 3 hours his wife came in, not knowing what had happened.
8 Peter said to her: Tell me, did you [two] sell the field for so much? She said: Yes, for so much.
9 So Peter said to her: Why was it agreed upon between you [two] to make a test of the spirit of Jehovah? Look! The feet of those who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out.
10 Instantly she fell down at his feet and expired. When the young men came in they found her dead, and they carried her out and buried her alongside her husband.
11 Consequently great fear came over the whole congregation and over all those hearing about these things (Acts 5)..

Once all 156,000 2NC saints are chosen this registration will end other than moving people up from Lord to King if Kings are Disfellowshipped. However the apostles have to stay loyal until the end (which is when they are raptured). If an apostle who has been a JW is disfellowshipped then he cannot lose his position in the family tree, since his water baptism is completed. He merely loses his apostleship and has a period of exile. The family tree does not collapse, he is still the father of his tribe, but he loses the headship of that tribe. He reutrns to an honorary position without any authority. But if an apostle who was not a JW is DFD, then he loses his apostleship and the whole tree collapses onto his ex position. 

Here is the account of Peter and the 10 apostles picking the new 12th apostle to replace Judas...

21 It is therefore necessary that of the men that assembled with us during all the time in which the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
22 starting with his baptism by John and until the day he was received up from us, one of these men should become a witness with us of his resurrection.
23 So they put up two, Joseph, the [one] called Barsabbas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.
24 And they prayed and said: You, O Lord, knower of the hearts of all, designate which one of these two men you have chosen,
25 to take the place of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas deviated to go to his own place (Acts 1).

So the apostles were with Jesus from his baptism until his resurrection. And all this time Jesus 'went in and out among us'. 

So it is as Mark said:

14 And he formed [a group of] 12, whom he also named apostles, that they might continue with him and that he might send them out to preach (Mark 3).

Then we have Jesus words when he made the first new covenant. He said...

28 However, you are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials,
29 and I make a covenant with you, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom,
30 that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel (Luke 22).

So every apostle must stick with Jesus in his trials. Now the apostles stuck with him physically for his whole physical ministry. But after he died he was present through his wife, all the 1NC saints as a group. So individual 1NC saints had to stick with the true church, which contained his wife, all of their lives in some sense. They could be DFD so long as they came back afterwards.

If a 2NC king without a completed water baptism, is DFD then when he returns and is re-baptised, he becomes what anyone else would become. His original baptism has expired entirely. This will mean that a Lord further down the tree is promoted to a King by virtue of his now becoming the 12,000th virgin by descent. 

The 1NC saints can be DFD without losing their kingship if they repent and return. Since they have a completed water baptism, and will be in the Kingdom and TCC4 is not a place to change their royal status.

So being DFD again does not break the covenant if you repent and return, but you lose your initial placing since you need to be rebaptised. When you are rebaptised you become a King or a Lord depending on whether all the kings are chosen at the time of your new baptism. Once you repent then all of your sins are forgiven, so your mistake is not held against you, you merely lose your place in the queue.

In summary when a king or an apostle is DFD he loses his kingship or his apostleship. But once he is readmitted he is fully forgiven and his past does not prevent him becoming a king again so long as the opportunity is still there with his new baptism placing. But he cannot be re-instated as an apostle, apostles stick with Jesus always. He just loses his initial place in the first come first serve system, and his new authority is determined by his second or latest baptism. However his genealogy is unaltered. But in the case of ex JWs, the initial LW genealogy is preserved but the authority is lost, since they have a completed water baptism which does not expire on disfellowshipping. 

The angels will arrange that the first 144,000 2NC saints are put into one or other of the 12 tribes, moving candidates to non full tribes when necessary to ensure first come first served. Then the next 11,998 go into the tribe of Gordon where the 2 Barbs are already (they cannot be moved since they were both JWs). JWs have a completed water baptism, so they can never lose their place in a branch. They must be baptised by an ex JW or they will not be able to pick up their beds.

12,000 in Judah sealed first, then 12,000 sanctified in Reuben etc in Revelation 7:9. Gordon is Levi, for he cannot make one of the 12 tribes, he has the reserves who have no land, no administration, no kingship whilst they remain in Levi. The 12,000 of Dan could be baptised at any time not being mentioned in Revelation 7.

Checklist for 2NC Kings

[1] Have you ever been the head priest, head minister, presiding overseer of a church/congregation? If you were the one head of any false religious congregation then you are not a virgin. So the head of a Sikh temple, the head of a Buddhist temple, the head of a garage mosque etc are disqualified. Anyone who was the leader of a religious group of people.

[2]  Were you a presiding overseer or higher in the JWs after 2004Elul14 (2004September1)?

[3]   Were you 20 by Hebrew reckoning in 1999Elul1? Were you under 60 in 1994Elul1? In Gregorian terms, were you born before 1980Elul1 (Evening August 14th) and after 1935Elul1 (Evening September 1st).

[4] Every ex JW (water baptised before 2001Tishri30, 2001October21 evening) is given a completed water baptism on joining, since he has joined both true religions in the presence. Every ex JW, picks up his bed and is welcomed home.

[5]  If you unworthily partook of the JW 1NC memorial emblems at any time then you are guilty with respect to the blood of the JAC. So you cannot be a 2NC king, but you can of course become an LW and perhaps be a 2NC Lord, being sanctified after your water baptism. Lying about this is committing spiritual suicide - Ananias and Sapphira. (But having drunk judgement with respect to that cup, perhaps no sanctification is possible). Mind you the cup was meaningless for year in the JWs.

27 Consequently whoever eats the loaf or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty respecting the body and the blood of the Lord.
28 First let a man approve himself after scrutiny, and thus let him eat of the loaf and drink of the cup.
29 For he that eats and drinks eats and drinks judgment against himself if he does not discern the body.
30 That is why many among you are weak and sickly, and quite a few are sleeping [in death] (1 Corinthians 11).

If you are guilty with respect to the body or blood of the Lord, you can be forgiven by water baptism on entrance into the LWs. We are not going to examine who mistakenly partook of the emblems in the JWs. Doing so is not a sin against the holy spirit, and so it can be forgiven.

Checklist for scrutiny of 144,000 1NC Kings

The last one died before 2001Heshvan7.

All non reserve 1NC saints were sanctified before 1925Tishri (30 years after 1895Tishri) following after the mirror image of the pattern of the first century. Also the Memorial attendance on 1925Nisan14 was 90,434, although many of these were non virgins or too young or too old or sanctified but never sealed. The 64,000 sealed second presence 1NC saints (there were 80,000 from the first presence) were chosen on a first come first serve basis at their arrival into TCC3. Then for the next 30 years until 1955Tishri the 12,000 reserves were sanctified and more who were not going to be sealed. The 12,000 sealed reserves come into the LWs on a first come first serve basis. Neither the 144,000 non reserves nor the 12,000 reserves had any witness given to them directly by the holy spirit until after the congregation had given them such witness. The holy spirit corroborates the spirit of the congregation, it bears witness with the spirit of the congregation that these are born again, it does not bear witness without the spirit of the congregation, it does not unilaterally bear witness directly to the spirit of any individual (as the JWs would have us believe). But it does confirm or verify congregation understandings of the body of Christ, the 1NC saints. Hence many JWs stopped partaking in 1935 when Rutherford recognised the Great Crowd (10 years after the sanctification for the 144,000 had ended) and many continued partaking. However the LWs accurately know the chronology of the sanctification process so we can determine what baptism people have unambiguously.

16 The spirit itself bears-witness-with the spirit of us [not the spirits of us, but the spirit of the congregation as a whole church] that we are God's children (Romans 8).

So any spiritual virgin 1NC from the JWs who was born before 1906Nisan1 (Evening, March 26, 1906) and joined/was baptised into the Bible Students before 1925Tishri is accepted as a genuine member of the 144,000 1NC saints, whether he used to partake of the emblems or not!!! 

Now here is one greater meaning of the baptism of Jesus in water by John...

13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to John, in order to be baptized by him.
14 But the latter tried to prevent him, saying: I am the one needing to be baptized by you, and are you coming to me?
15 In reply Jesus said to him: Let it be, this time, for in that way it is suitable for us to carry out all that is righteous. Then
he quit preventing him (Matthew 3).

Jesus represents Gordon, who was prevented by John who represents Russell and his son the 1NC saints in the Watchtower. They eventually did agree to baptise Gordon and now they need to be baptized by Gordon. There are two different water baptisms witnessed to in this meeting. John represent the first true religion of a presence and one of the people who is baptised into that church then re-baptises the faithful from the first church into his church. The baptizer become the baptizee. 

These guys are all in heaven. The last one died before 2001Heshvan7.

Checklist for scrutiny of 12,000 1NC reserves

The first 12,000 spiritual virgin JWs born before 1936Nisan1 (Evening, March 24, 1936), having joined/been baptised into the JWs after 1925Tishri and before 1995Tishri15 (when FDS3 lost its authority over the saints), to enter the LWs, are reserve 1NC saints. These are again chosen on a first come first serve basis into TCC4. So that just as in the first presence the complete body of Jesus Christ the human grew and was completed after 30 years, then the replacement body appeared, the wife, so in the second presence the wife was completed in 30 years and then the replacement body members appeared, the reserves. This reserves had no independent witness borne to them by the holy spirit in advance of their being informed by the LWs of their status, because the JWs did not know there were any reserves. So they do not know that they are reserves or that there are any reserves until they are told such by the LWs! George is their apostle, the father of the reserves. Every 1NC reserve must be baptised by George or by a son of George. Actually it is more likely that there are 6,000 in each presence for a reserve from the 20th century might now fill the shoes of a saint from the first century very well. Also Jesus said to Peter after he cut off the ear of Malchus...

53 Or do you think that I cannot appeal to my Father to supply me at this moment more than twelve legions of angels? (Matthew 26).

More than 72,000 1NC saints, so perhaps 6,000 reserves too!!! Also to keep the presence going whilst the non reserves are resurrected we need reserves in the first presence too.

The 1NC reserves run their own judicial committee under LW rules. They deal only with themselves. Their job is to save all their 6,000 brothers. They do not baptise an 2NC saints, they only baptise each other - see Mark 5, U271. 

There is no 1NC reserve apostle. Each spare part gets assigned to a tribe when he takes up his kingship. They must be baptised by an ex-JW. 

Peter said... 

Lord, I am ready to go with you both into prison and into death (Luke 22).

This prophetically says that Peter will go into both the first death and the second, the prison of Gehenna, after all the 1NCs are baptised into Jesus' death and he went into both Hades and Gehenna. In fact how can you judge angels and send them to a place to which you have never yourself been? Even people who purchase Tasers, must by US law be shot with one of them, so they know what it is that they might do to people. Jesus went on to say...

34 But he said: I tell you, Peter, A cock will not crow today until you have three times denied knowing me (Luke 22).

Peter did this literally, and 3 churches denied the Christ and became false.

Checklist for ex-JW

Any JW who was baptised and was 20 years old before 2001Tishri30, who joins the LWs, is given (although may in fact already have) a completed water baptism. He is sealed in the flesh, he can pick up his bed.

2NC Administrators, Lords

Non Kings who are 20 years and over by Hebrew counting are sanctified into the 2NC(a) up until 2006Shebat. 5 months of the hand of Jairus' daughter after 2006Elul.

All 20 year olds are fine. In the case of 19 year olds, they are 20 by Hebrew reckoning if they were born before Nisan1 in their birth year.

1987Nisan1  March30, Evening 
1986Nisan1  March11, Evening 

The woman of Matthew 9 and Mark 5 and Luke 8 had a flow of blood for 12 years making herself unclean in the flesh.

Water baptised priests

We present believe that the saints are harvested right up until 2008Tishri30, when we lose our water baptism. Or perhaps we lose it on 2008Heshvan7, but the saints come in up to 2008Tishri30??

Children

Those from 5 to 19 be Hebrew counting are water baptised into the ICC. However should they reach 20 years old on 2008Nisan1 they can be sanctified as 2NC Lords.

Disfellowshipping

If a 1NC king is disfellowshipped this makes no difference to his royal status in the case of the LWs since he has a completed water baptism and so cannot go into Gehenna. Such a brother will be a King or reserve King in heaven in the Kingdom. However, he may lose his kingship during the kingdom if he continues in sin.

If a 2NC king is disfellowshipped he loses his kingship. If he returns then he retakes his position in the family tree as a Lord, a non virgin if you like. If he doesn't he goes to Gehenna.

If an apostle is disfellowshipped he loses his kingship and his apostleship. If he returns he retakes his position in the family tree possibly still as a King or perhaps as a Lord, but he is no longer the family head.

JW 2NC tribes?

How many ex JW 2NC apostles should there be? 10 tribes stripped from Solomon's son Rehoboam and given to Jeroboam, behause Rehoboam was harsh failing to listen to the counsel of the older men. Rehoboam is the sons of the Watchtower, Jeroboam is the sons of the world in FDS4. So 2 tribes are from the Watchtower, the greater Judah and Benjamin, son of the left hand. Also two of Jesus' apostles were John's disciples, Andrew and John (John 1). The Watchtower (the sons of Russell), lose 10 tribes in the LWs.

Actually they kind of get 2½ tribes, like those east of the Jordan river, those from beyond the river, since they can come into my tribe of the reserves.

2NC watchtower saints can baptise 1NC watchtower saints, but not vice versa, because 1NC saints are already in a tribe, but 2NC saints needs to go into one of the 2½ tribes - see U190.

The remnant enter the house on 2008Nisan10 and from then onwards a water baptised reserve cannot cause a presence down here. Or more likely from 2008Nisan14, when the marriage agreement occurs, the investiture.

Can a saint lose his angel but still be saved?

4 For it is impossible as regards those who have once for all been enlightened, and who have tasted the heavenly free gift [singular, spirit sanctification], and who have become partakers of holy spirit [the holy spirit acts through you],
5 and who have tasted the fine saying of God [the fine details of the meanings of the scriptures] and powers of the coming system of things [so that faith is surplanted by experience, for faith is the demonstration of realities not beheld. So once they have been beheld, faith is obsolete. If you see a man being resurrected then faith is obsolete for you],
6 but who have fallen away, to revive them again to repentance, because they impale the Son of God afresh for themselves and expose him to public shame.
7 For example, the ground that drinks in the rain which often comes upon it, and that then brings forth vegetation suitable to those for whom it is also cultivated, receives in return a blessing from God.
8 But if it produces thorns and thistles, it is rejected and is near to being cursed; and it ends up with being burned (Hebrews 6).

So the 1AC is no longer available to saints who have experienced the gifts of the spirit. So once they fall away, that is it. But the scripture does not say their repentance is not acceptible. It says they will not be repentant. So any saint who is repentant has not tasted the powers. Many JW saints are in this category. If they never join the LWs but never taste the powers, they could repent and join Zoar, in which case they would be saved but have lost their spirit baptism. God will never turn away a repentant person.