It is God’s force just like there are 4 main forces
in the physical universe: Gravity, electro magnetism, strong nuclear force and
weak nuclear force. The HS is God’s active force which he uses to accomplish
his purpose. Quote: “If Jehovah wants something to be done on earth, he sends
out his Holy Spirit to accomplish the task.”. It is not God’s power which
can be latent or which can be at rest. It is always active in the scriptures.
Power = Force x Speed. God’s power is the work done per second with his force.
He cannot have an active force yet a resting power. That would contradict his
own laws. And active force uses power.
The HS is not a person. Jesus was “full of HS”, he
was filled with God’s power, not with another person. John 14:26 ‘helper”
is just a metaphor, Luke speaks about “wisdom” as a person (luke11:49).
The Holy Spirit is God’s wife. If God is
unmarried then Adam was a bastard and so are all his sons. Would God condemn a
man to death for fathering a child outside of marriage if he fathered the whole
human race as a single parent? Helper is a euphemism for wife, first applied to
Eve, Adam’s wife. Wives are helpers to their husbands (in theory).
However, Jehovah's angel spoke to Philip, saying: Rise and go to the
south to the road that runs down from Jerusalem to Gaza. This is a desert
29 So the spirit said to Philip: Approach and join yourself to this chariot…
39 When they had come up out of the water, Jehovah's spirit quickly led Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him anymore, for he kept going on his way rejoicing (Acts 8).
So Jehovah's angel was the
speaking as 'the spirit' which was 'Jehovahs spirit'. This shows that God's
spirit consists of angels. In fact the angel who spoke to Philip would have
probably been his opposite number in the holy spirit. For there is a one to one
correspondence between the 144,000 angels of the holy spirit, God's wife, and
the 144,000 angels of Jesus' wife, the 1NC saints.
Another way to see that God has
a wife is to consider the Jesus' words when he said...
Therefore, in answer, Jesus went on to say to them: Most truly I say to you, The
Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds
the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son
also does in like manner (John 5).
So Jesus only does what he has
seen his father do first. But the whole of Jesus' ministry can be regarded as a
journey to a distant land to get himself a large composite wife, which wife he
paid for with his blood. And certainly Jesus succeeded and got a wife - see U65.
So John 5:19 is basically saying that God is married, which is hardly
In like manner the spirit also joins in with help for our weakness; for the
[problem of] what we should pray for as we need to we do not know, but the
spirit itself pleads/intercedes for us with groanings unuttered
Furthermore it gets hurt and
Also, do not be grieving God's holy spirit, with which you have been
sealed for a day of releasing by ransom (Ephesians 4).
And it has a will of its own...
But all these operations the one and the same spirit performs, making a
distribution to each one respectively just as it wills (1 Corinthians 12).
So since it is a living spirit,
so it must consist either of an angel or of a group of them.
While the “other sheep” can and do have the HS,
only the anointed brothers of Christ are baptized in HS (Mat 3:11). The 1st
century Christians were later born from HS to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven
from 33 Pentecost onwards.
How then did they use the gifts of the
spirit before Pentecost and expel demons if they were not already born again?
Flesh cannot expel spirit.
How were the disciples living, if they
were not born again. Jesus said: Let the dead bury the dead, showing that the
disciples were not dead but living. Indeed how were Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
living if they were not born again, baptised in holy spirit?
Yes, but the spirit does not operate in the same way in
all persons. Faithful of old BC had the HS but worked with it differently then
those in 1st century. Today the remnant serves the congregation in
the HS operates in them in “a special way”. The other sheep need it
especially for preaching.
but the other sheep are not of the same fold, and so are in a different church,
in a different temple, under a different shepherd, FDS4 the administration of
the LWs. The anointed are a flock, the fold is the church. Other sheep in a
different fold are in another church.
They were given in 1st century to prove the
true church – not necessary today.
is true that the physical gifts of the Holy Spirit are not necessary today. But
nonetheless Acts 2 and Joel 2 plainly have fulfilments in the last days, so
there are to be gifts of the spirit of a different type today.
Quote: “There are only 2 families today on the earth.
Gen. 3:15,16. Either we belong to God’s seed or to Satan’s seed. […] So
obedience to God’s earthly organization shows our submission. […] during the
GT we need to follow the HS by obeying the instructions of the organization it
Then why did Israel have 3 fathers?
Abraham Isaac and Jacob, if there are only to be two seeds? There are in fact 4
seeds. The sons of Abraham, those with faith and a heavenly water baptism, the
sons of Isaac, those with a valid earthly water baptism, those in the true
church, the sons of Jacob, those with a spirit baptism and the sons of
destruction, those with the baptism of fire.
Obedience to an organisation is idolatry
of that organisation. Obedience to one’s conscience is true worship. Obedience
to God is obeying his commandments, not the commandments of men.
6 He said to them: "Isaiah aptly
prophesied about you hypocrites, as it is written, 'This people honor me with
[their] lips, but their hearts are far removed from me.
7 It is in vain that they keep
worshiping me, because they teach as doctrines commands of men.'
go the commandment of God, you hold fast the tradition of men." (Mark 7).
The commandment of God is to love your
brother and that if you fail to visit him when sick or in prison you will go
into indefinitely lasting cutting off. The commandment of men is to shun your
sick and disfellowshipped brother. Which one do you obey? Where are you headed?
Quote: “The Bible tells us what DJs sometime say to
their listeners: ‘Don’t touch that button’ or ‘stay tuned’. […]
Their a great benefits from finding and staying on this channel […] we can not
afford to switch it or turn the radio off […] today we can only find divine
revelations on 1 channel, on 1 frequency. Yes God teaches ‘responsible
anointed’ the deep things”
have not read the ‘don’t touch that button' scripture. Those who add to the
scriptures get the plagues of Revelation, we have read that scripture. Paul
said: The spiritual man examines indeed all things. He did not say, the
spiritual man pulls the frequency dial off his radio. If you only listen to one
person or one group of people, you are an idolater of that group.
Ezekiel’s temple vision: It is a spiritual temple.
When and by whom built? (No Scriptures followed!) Temple built on Jesus’
sacrifice. Anointed today serve in inner courtyard and in Holy (heaven). They
cooperate between earth and heaven. The other sheep have the privilege to serve
in ‘outer courtyard’. Quote: “Jesus was anointed as High Priest in 29CE”
is saying that the holy is in heaven, the inner courtyard is the anointed and
the other sheep are in the outer courtyard. In fact the other sheep are in a
different church. The anointed of the Watchtower are in the darkness outside,
since God rejected that church after it place Satan’s throne (the UN) in its
temple, this being the abomination causing desolation to the harlot riding the
beast of the UN. Jesus was not the high priest under law. He became the high
priest after he ended the law. Caiaphas was the high priest and he offered up
Jesus. Jesus did offer himself up as a human not to God but to Caiaphas, since
he did not resist his arrest. He did offer himself up as an angel, an
everlasting spirit to God, after his angelic resurrection on33Nisan16, in order
to ransom Adam angelically. The result of this was unsurprisingly that Adam was
ransomed angelically. So he is alive and well in his angelic body in heaven
right now, thanks to the angelic ransom, angelic soul for angelic soul. So Jesus
was a high priest on 33Nisan16. Prior to that he was dead or under law.
Corresponding ransom: Jesus did not ransom Adam. How
corresponding? Adam sinned with all his offspring in his loins. Jesus died clean
with all his offspring in his loins, à
thus corresponding! (No further details, no Scripture read)
is another talk designed to defend their bankrupt doctrine against the true or
at least much improved understandings of the LWs. Of course Jesus directly
ransomed Adam soul for soul. It is not possible for Jesus’ seed, who although
born again are also sons of Adam, to ransom anybody. Actually since Jesus seed
are all also Adam’s seed in this system, we would be ransoming ourselves! This
is self evidently wrong. The ransom corresponds, soul for soul. Adam is saved as
Charles Russell understood, because although there is no forgiveness for the sin
against the holy spirit in this system or the next, there was forgiveness for
that sin in the previous system in which Adam sinned. So the Watchtower has
corrupted the understandings of its founder.
Quote: “spirit of the world is a powerful influence
in opposition to God’s spirit”
Romans 8:6,7,8 read but not really interpreted at all
but said that minding of spirit and flesh is like scale and we have to emphasize
the spirit, otherwise Satan will put weight on the fleshly scale. Quote: “the
‘minding of the spirit’ means that we follow advice from the FDS.
is blasphemy. The FDS is not the HS. It has taken the glory of the HS which is
God’s glory, since the HS is his wife. And it represents that following its
commands is following God’s commands. So it makes itself into a God. It will
therefore be eaten up with worms.
8:9 read but the deep things not investigated or
explained, just interviews.
‘borne along’ uses word like when ship is driven by
the wind, so Scriptures are “god breathed”. The concept is important, the
idea, not every word. The words were chosen by the writers themselves.
Jesus would disagree, saying that every
particle of every letter of the law will be fulfilled.
18 for truly I say to you that sooner
would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or one particle of
a letter to pass away from the Law by any means and not all things take place
So not only are the words chosen by God,
but actually every letter, even every accent on a letter is chosen by God.
21 For prophecy was at no time brought by
man's will, but men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy
spirit (2 Peter 2).
Again the Watchtower try to replace
God’s words with the words of men.
but make sure of all things. Make sure you are boldly proclaiming the word of
God, not the word of men who claim to be the exclusive channel for God’s
spirit, whilst preaching doctrines taken from other churches by their
predecessors who did not claim to be the exclusive channel bible the holy spirit
but humbly admitted to being sifters and collators of other people’s work
(Kingdom Proclaimers – C. T. Russell).
The ‘waters of life’ in Revelation 21:6 quote:
“are all provisions of God today to give us life”. Rev. 22:17 ‘keep on
saying come” means we must continue to preach in the ministry à
Dan 6:10 he continued worshipping so we have to continue our worship today.
And the spirit and the bride keep on saying: "Come!" And let anyone
hearing say: "Come!" And let anyone thirsting come; let anyone that
wishes take life's water free (Revelation 22).
No, it is an invitation from the HS (the
bride of God) and the bride of Jesus, the HS of the next system, the 1NC saints,
to come and join the life, not the truth. The life, is the 4th and
last true Christian church.
The LWs give a water baptism free and
immediately to any who ask it. For it is a free gift from God, not an exam
certificate from men. The JWs do not give it free, but require all sorts of man
made works and 168 questions and 6 months of door knocking etc.
As regards Daniel 6, sure we should keep
worshipping God, not men.
(‘eis’ ‘into’ not explained but said ‘in’)
How? If police arrests someone “in the name of the law” it means in
acknowledgement of the law. In name of father means you acknowledged Jehovah’s
right to set laws. In name of son that you recognize him as your saviour. In the
name of HS does not mean ‘with HS’, that is only anointed. If not a person
but force of the father, why is it mentioned apart from Jehovah? It is because
of the role of the HS in God’s purpose. It means that you acknowledge the HS
and it’s power. Even Jesus apostles did not understand the basic things until
Pentecost. à John 14:7, only spirit can make us understand the Scriptures, the truth.
The Father is Abraham, the Son is Isaac,
the Holy Spirit is God’s wife, the mother of those who are born again, the
Jerusalem above, God’s heavenly administration, 144,000 angels. Matthew 28 in
the Greek is a baptism into the name of the Father and into the name of the Son
and into the name of the HS. This is 3 different baptisms into 3 different
names. It is not a baptism with 3 authorities, which is a Roman Catholic
doctrine. There is only one authority for all baptism. And that is Jehovah. For
the true meaning of Matthew 28:19 see intro32.
We need brothers who can help with the deconstruction of the platform and the equipment after Sunday session and on Monday. Please sign up this evening so you can be trained tomorrow in the intermission. But you have to be ‘qualified’. Please get an elder of your congregation to accompany you to the registration desk so that he can verify that you qualify for the privilege of deconstruction and moving it to the convention storage…”
We are not surprised that a cave of robbers is not going to trust its own flock with a few microphones and speakers.