John had an intransitive water baptism. He made thousands of first generation children by water baptism. All 12 apostles were baptised by John as first generation children of Elijah. No one baptised by Elijah could baptise anyone else initially...
4 John the baptizer turned up in the
wilderness, preaching baptism [in symbol] of repentance for forgiveness of sins.
5 Consequently all the territory of Judea and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem made their way out to him, and they were baptized by him in the Jordan River, openly confessing their sins (Mark 1).
Jesus himself baptised no one and yet by John4 he was baptising more people than John...
1 When, now, the Lord became aware that
the Pharisees had heard that Jesus was making and baptizing more disciples than
2 although, indeed, Jesus himself did no baptizing but his disciples did,
3 he left Judea and departed again for Galilee (John4).
Q: How did he achieve this since he baptised no one and John's baptism was intransitive?
A: He chose 12 apostles and made their baptisms transitive. He authorized them to become procreative sons of John. He did not baptise them though. The 12 were already clean in the flesh and sons of the 1EC and the ICC. He merely authorized them to baptise with a transitive water baptism. 12 people with a transitive baptism (pyramid networking, A baptises B and C, B baptises D and E, C baptises F and G etc) will soon overtake one person with an intransitive baptism (without pyramid networking).
The thousands baptised by John who were not apostles were cleansed for entrance into the 1NC as reserves. They were the 6,000 1NC reserves of the first presence. Baptised directly by John. This proves there were 1NC reserves! The second presence 1NC reserves are baptised last. In this way the first to enter will be last to rule and yet the last to enter will be first to act as the holy spirit on earth!!!
This pattern does not apply to the Watchtower. Russell was an unwitting Elijah (unlike Herbert W. Armstrong who was not an Elijah but thought he was). Russell made no apostles. However his baptism must have been transitive or the religion would have been finished when he died.
Actually all Elijah's have complete power over their water baptism until it ends. Gordon is the only one to outlive his baptism. That is only because the Kingdom of God begins on earth with non adamic Zoar on 2012Ab16 (our Zoar appointment to feed) before his baptism ends on 2018Nisan8, the 5th marriage Pentecost, for humans, and on 2018Iyyar8, the late 5th marriage Pentecost, for descended angels. So Gordon can make his baptism transitive if he wants. He can insist that the only way to get baptised is to have a pint of beer in the world's end pub on a Thursday evening if he wants. So John the Baptist chose to make his baptism intransitive knowing that Jesus was going to make 12 tribes from it by choosing 12 apostles and giving them the power to baptize transitively. John must also have given Jesus authority to make 12 of his disciples into apostles with transitive water baptisms.
1 So he summoned his 12 disciples [who
were already appointed as apostles]
and gave them authority over
unclean spirits, in order to expel these and to cure every sort of
disease and every sort of infirmity.
2 But the names of the 12 apostles  are these: First [was] , Simon, the [one] called Peter, and Andrew, his brother; and James, the [son] of Zebedee and John, his brother;
3 Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew, the tax collector, James, the [son] of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus,
4 Simon, the Cananaean, and Judas, the Iscariot, even the [one] betraying/giving over him (Matthew 10).
Matthew 10 being set after the appointment of the 12 is not parallel to Mark3
and Luke 6, which are both set before the appointment of the12.
The literal meaning of Matthew 10, Mark 3 and Luke 6 applies to the 12x 1NC apostles chosen by Jesus. The word symbolic meaning in one thread applies to the 12 apostles of Paul (Elijah2) and the 12 apostles of Gordon (Elijah4).
13 And he ascended a mountain and summoned those he
wanted, and they went off to him.
14 And he formed [a group of] 12, whom he also named apostles, that they might continue with him and that he might send them out to preach
15 and to have authority to expel the demons [Literal demons. So this is apostles of Gordon in FDS4].
16 And he appointed the 12 and he gave the name Peter to the Simon,
17 and [he appointed] James, the [son] of Zebedee and John, the brother of James and he gave to them the name Boanerges, which is/means Sons of Thunder,
18 and [he appointed] Andrew and Philip and Bartholomew and Matthew and Thomas and James, the [son] of Alphaeus and Thaddaeus and Simon, the Cananaean
19 and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed/gave over him... (Mark 3).
12 In the progress of these days he went out into the mountain to
pray, and he continued the whole night in prayer to God.
13 But when it became day he called his disciples to him and chose from among them 12, whom he also named apostles [apostles of Paul in FDS2]:
14 Simon, whom he also named Peter, and Andrew, his brother, and James and John, and Philip and Bartholomew,
15 and Matthew and Thomas, and James [the son] of Alphaeus, and Simon, the [one] called Zealot,
16 and Judas [the son] of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became a traitor (Luke 6).
Judas of James is Thaddeus and Barthlomew is Nathanael of John1. There are 3 different James' being referred to above. This is important for the identity of the writer of the book of James who being also a slave of God, was a President of a true church in the first presence - U233. Thaddaeus who is Judas the son of James and Bartholomew, only appears once again in the scriptures in the upper chamber in Acts 1. So you do not have to be widely written about or really dynamic to be an apostle!
As regards the sons of the 1NC and the first 12 apostles, there are in fact 12 tribes of 12,000 each who are the water baptised sons and sons of sons etc. who became sealed 1NC saints of John the baptist. Then there are another two half tribes of reserves. The first half tribe were the 6,000 directly baptised by John the baptist with his intransitive water baptism. The second half tribe are the 6,000 1NC reserves who join the LWs.
So we have 2 greater sets of apostles of Paul and of Gordon: Peter, Andrew, James, John, Philip, Matthew, Bartholomew, Thomas, James of Alphaeus, Simon the Cananaean, Judas of James and Judas Iscariot.
But them there is a second word thread which has a further 2 sets of 12 people sent forth who must be apostles in another sense (people sent forth but not apostles of Jesus or an Elijah).
The first presence 1NC saints were baptised into Jesus' name from the heavens. But this baptism created two heavenly angelic parents for each 1NC saints. All spirit baptisms do this. For God does not create children outside of families - man does that. Paul who was not a 1NC apostle of indeed a 1NC saint but was rather the mediator of the ELC.
8 for He who gave Peter powers necessary for an apostleship to those who are circumcised gave powers also to me for those who are of the nations (Galatians 2).
1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus [sent by Jesus as Elijah2] through God's will according to the promise of the life that is in union with Christ Jesus (2 Timothy 1).
So the water baptism determines the tribe. But the spirit baptism determines the angelic parents.
Simon (6, 2 literal)
James (6, 3 literal)
Judas (4, 2 literal)
1 Saul, for his part, was approving
of the murder of him. On that day great persecution arose against the
congregation that was in Jerusalem; all except the apostles were scattered
throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria.
2 But reverent men carried Stephen to the burial, and they made a great lamentation over him.
3 Saul, though, began to deal outrageously with the congregation. Invading one house after another and, dragging out both men and women, he would turn them over to prison.
4 However, those who had been scattered went through the land declaring the good news of the word.
5 But Philip, for one, went down to the city of Samaria and began to preach the Christ to them.
6 With one accord the crowds were paying attention to the things said by Philip while they listened and looked at the signs he was performing.
7 For there were many that had unclean spirits, and these would cry out with a loud voice and come out. Moreover, many that were paralyzed and lame were cured.
8 So there came to be a great deal of joy in that city.
9 Now in the city there was a certain man named Simon, who, prior to this, had been practicing magical arts and amazing the nation of Samaria, saying he himself was somebody great.
10 And all of them, from the least to the greatest, would pay attention to him and say: This man is the Power of God, which can be called Great.
11 So they would pay attention to him because of his having amazed them for quite a while by his magical arts.
12 But when they believed Philip, who was declaring the good news of the kingdom of God and of the name of Jesus Christ, they proceeded to be baptized, both men and women.
13 Simon himself also became a believer, and, after being baptized, he was in constant attendance upon Philip; and he was amazed at beholding signs and great powerful works taking place.
14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they dispatched Peter and John to them;
15 and these went down and prayed for them to get holy spirit.
16 For it had not yet fallen upon any one of them, but they had only been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.
17 Then they went laying their hands upon them, and they began to receive holy spirit.
18 Now when Simon saw that through the laying on of the hands of the apostles the spirit was given, he offered them monies,
19 saying: Give me also this authority, that anyone upon whom I lay my hands may receive holy spirit.
20 But Peter said to him: May your silver perish with you, because you thought through monies to get possession of the free gift of God.
21 You have neither part nor lot in this matter, for your heart is not straight in the sight of God.
22 Repent, therefore, of this badness of yours, and supplicate the Lord that, if possible, the device of your heart may be forgiven you;
23 for I see you are a poisonous gall and a bond of unrighteousness.
24 In answer Simon said: You men, make supplication for me to the Lord that none of the things you have said may come upon me (Acts 8).
Simon is a corrupt 2NC apostle. Because he asks that supplication is made that the 'things' said do not befall him. And one of these things was: 'You have neither part nor lot in this matter'. So he is an apostle. So he is Roger Knight/AOL. He tries to purchase with 'monies' i.e. with a large congregation, the power to create 2NC kings.
|Genesis 30 listed order and sanctification order||Gen 30 true, winner, stick to me 3.||Registration Order||Blessing||Revelation||Moses Inherit East of Jordan and Joshua Lot, West of Jordan||Pull out order. Closing gate order of Revelation.|
|Gad||Gad Bart||Joseph (Ephraim)||Judah||Simeon||Benjamin||Ephraim|
|Asher||Asher Thomas||Manasseh||Zebulun||Levi||Simeon (2)||Manasseh|
|Issachar||Issachar Matt||Benjamin||Issachar||Issachar||Zebulun (3)||Benjamin|
|Zebulun||Zebulun James A||Dan||Dan||Zebulun||Issachar (4)||Dan|
|Benjamin||Benjamin Thaddaeus||Napthali||Asher||Benjamin||Naphtali (6)||Naphtali|
|Manasseh||Manasseh Simon||Naphtali||Dan (7)|
6 are so far chosen. They must be baptised by Gordon and must stick with Gordon always (i.e. not be DFD - Disfellowshipped). If they are DFD then they lose their apostleship. They certainly have to stay in the church until they have 12,000 saints in their tribe...
20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, 'Let his lodging place
become desolate, and let there be no dweller in it,' and, 'His office of
oversight [apostleship] let someone else
21 It is therefore necessary that of the men that assembled with us during all the time in which the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
22 starting with his baptism by John and until the day he was received up from us, one of these men should become a witness with us of his resurrection.
23 So they put up two, Joseph called Barsabbas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias
24 And they prayed and said: You, Oh Jehovah, who know the hearts of all, designate which one of these 2 you have chosen,
25 to take the place of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas deviated to go to his own place.
26 So they cast lots over them, and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was reckoned along with the 11 apostles (Acts 1).
28 And God has set the respective ones in the congregation, first, apostles; second, prophets; third, teachers; then powerful works; then gifts of healings; helpful services, abilities to direct, different tongues (1 Corinthians 12).
So we have 12 foundation stones, 12 patriarchs. These baptise people in water into their respective tribes.