Here is the first word symbolic meaning (and a bit of Word2)...
[Belshazzar] the king means 'the king' substituted to be 'Belshazzar'.
1 As regards Belshazzar,
the
king [meaning: May Baal
protect the king!] [The Slave of Baal (SB), the head of the Watchtower after it
became a false church], he made a big
feast for 1,000 of his grandees [trusted
researchers for 1,000 days - this must run from 2005Tammuz7 to 2008Nisan17 when
the writing first appeared on the wall, since the Kingdom of God started], and in front of/before the 1,000
[1,000 years of the Kingdom] he was drinking
wine [he was drinking the new wine of the LWs
before the 1,000 years of the kingdom of God].
2 Belshazzar [SB], under the influence of the
wine [having been influenced by LW
understandings], said to bring in the
vessels of gold [1NC saints] and of silver
[2NC saints] that Nebuchadnezzar his father
[God, SB is a 2NC Lord, a saint] had taken away from
the temple that was in Jerusalem [God took the
1NC and 2NC kings away from the authority of the Watchtower on 1995Tishri18 when
FDS4 was appointed over them], that from them [Belshazzar]
the king [SB]
and his grandees [JW administrators], his
wives [regular JWs, in subjection to the
Watchtower] and his concubines [JW
bible studies] might drink [Every
JW is given some part of LW understandings. they start buying LW food].
3 At that time they brought in the vessels of gold
[but not silver] that
they had taken away from the temple of the house of God that was in Jerusalem,
and from them [Belshazzar] the king
[SB] and his grandees, his wives and his
concubines drank [wine but the vessels used
are not stipulated. So by the ambiguity principle, they drank out of the gold
vessels officially and the silver vessels unofficially. But still no food at the
feast!].
4 They drank wine [LW
salvation understandings], and they praised the gods of gold
[1NC saints] and
of silver [2NC kings],
copper [2NC lords],
iron [JW overseers], wood [JW
researchers, doctrine builders] and stone [regular
JWs, dead stones] [because the regular JWs did not know the understandings came
from the LWs. The Watchtower is a cave of robbers, and they are spies].
5 At that moment the fingers of a man's hand came forth
[Fingers but no palm! 5 months from
2008Nisan17
to 2008Elul7 inclusive of Gordon writing about Jericho etc] and were writing in front of the lampstand
[This is Gordon writing to all the Bethels,
the worldwide congregation, the lampstand of the JWs, using his finger tips upon
a keyboard. This account prophesies typing! Also the LWs decode using a projector to
beam the writings of the bible on to the wall - we do not use a screen!] upon the plaster of the wall of the
palace of the king [double designation so
substitute genitive king?
on the subject of your wall falling down, i.e. having bad plaster, the palace of
the king is a 1NC church], and
[Belshazzar] the king
[SB] was beholding the extremity of the hand [from
2008Tammuz28, Watchtower division day - see below - to 2008Elul7 when the first birth pang occurs] that was
writing [the plaster being what holds the
stones of the wall together. The wall of the law of the Watchtower. This wall
falls down on 2008Tishri7, from the greater meaning of Jericho].
6 At that time, as regards [Belshazzar]
the king [SB], his very complexion
was changed in him, and his own thoughts began to frighten him, and his hip
joints were loosening and his very knees were knocking each other [SB
is beginning to stumble in his faith and is in danger of losing his
sanctification].
7 The [Belshazzar]
the king [SB]
was calling out loudly to bring in the
conjurers, the Chaldeans [JWs] and the astrologers.
[Belshazzar] the king
[SB] was answering and saying
to the wise men of Babylon: Any man that will read this writing [not
said to be on the wall. Word symbolism, the greater meaning of each bible
account] and show me its
very interpretation [get the word symbolic
meaning correct], with purple he will be clothed, with a necklace of gold
about his neck [he will be adorned with 1NC
reserve kings over whom he has headship], and as the 3rd one in the kingdom he will
rule [Jesus + 1NC wife, then Melchizedek, then
Gordon + 2NC wife].
8 At that time all the wise men of the king
[substitute genitive king?] were coming
in, but they were not competent enough to read the writing itself [see
the word symbolic threads] or to make
known to [Belshazzar] the king
[SB] the interpretation [of
those threads].
9 Consequently the
King, Belshazzar [Sons
of the JAC] was very much frightened [at
the state of his reserve wife and the Watchtower] and his complexion was changing within
him [Getting angry with his kids]; and his grandees were
perplexed [LWs scratching their heads, because
we do not know enough].
10 As regards the queen [his
heavenly wife, after her marriage], because of the words of the king [1NC
reserves] and his grandees [hidden
prophets in the cave] she entered right into the banqueting hall [Descends
to the earth to help in the kitchen!] The queen spoke [to
the 1NC reserves] and said: Oh king, keep living even to times
indefinite [Do not go to Gehenna]. Do not let your
thoughts frighten you, nor let your complexion be changed [Do
not change from love to fear].
11 There exists a capable man in your kingdom in whom
there is the spirit of holy gods; and in the days of your father [your
father is Non
reserve Watchtower 1NC saints, who water baptised the reserve 1NC kings who came
later into the Watchtower] illumination
and insight and wisdom like the wisdom of gods were found in him, and the
king,
Nebuchadnezzar your father [W1:
Sons of the JAC, indicating more than a 1NC involvement in the setting up of
FDS4. Paul would obviously have been useful! W2: 1NC saints - Peter basically!]
himself set him up as chief of the magic-practicing
priests, the conjurers [all the bible
interpreters of Christendom], the Chaldeans [JWs]
[and] the astrologers, [even] your father,
Oh king;
12 forasmuch as an extraordinary spirit and knowledge and
insight to interpret dreams and the explanation of riddles and the untying of
knots had been found in him, in Daniel [W1:
Gordon. Word2: Russell], whom the king himself named
Belteshazzar [meaning: May God protect the
life of the king. This being what Gordon has been attempting to do with the 1NC
celebration methods for 14 years].
Now let Daniel himself [Gordon] be called, that he may show the very interpretation.
13 Accordingly Daniel himself was brought in before the
king. The king was speaking up and saying to Daniel: Are you the Daniel that is
of the exiles of Judah, whom the king my father brought out of Judah? [Binary
Question. Literally yes, Word symbolically no because although I was exiled from
Judah, I now run Judah. Judah changed from the JWs to the LWs.]
14 I have also heard concerning you that the spirit of
gods is in you, and illumination and insight and wisdom extraordinary have been
found in you.
15 And now there have been brought in before me the wise
men [and] the conjurers, that they may read this very writing, even to make
known to me its interpretation; but they are not competent enough to show the
very interpretation of the word.
16 And I myself have heard concerning you, that you are
able to furnish interpretations and to untie knots themselves. Now, if you are
able to read the writing and to make known to me its very interpretation, with
purple you will be clothed, with a necklace of gold around your neck, and as the
3rd one in the kingdom you will rule [Jesus,
Melchizedek, Daniel].
17 At that time Daniel was answering and saying before the
king: Let your gifts prove to be to you yourself [Zoar], and your presents do you give
to others [Laodicea]. However, I shall read the writing itself to the king, and the
interpretation I shall make known to him.
18 As for you, Oh king, the
God, the Most High [one] himself gave to [the
king] Nebuchadnezzar your father the kingdom and the greatness and the dignity and the
majesty.
19 And because of the greatness that He gave him, all
peoples, national groups and languages proved to be quaking and showing fear
before him. Whom he happened to want to, he was killing; and whom he happened to
want to, he was striking; and whom he happened to want to, he was exalting; and
whom he happened to want to, he was humiliating.
20 But when his heart became haughty and his own spirit
became hard [Jeff's ideas], so as to act presumptuously, he was brought down from the throne of
his kingdom, and his own dignity was taken away from him.
21 And from the sons of mankind he was driven away, and
his very heart was made like that of a beast, and with the wild asses his
dwelling was. Vegetation they would give him to eat just like bulls, and with
the dew of the heavens his own body got to be wet, until he knew that the
God, the most high [one], is ruler in the kingdom of mankind, and that the one whom he wants to,
he sets up over it [This is Daniel5 telling us
who the 7x malediction of Daniel4 is upon, in each of the word symbolisms. The
King is the sons of the JAC in Word1, for the Gentile Times Malediction.
Nebuchadnezzar is the 1NC saints in Word2, for the 1NC malediction].
22 And as for you, his son, Belshazzar, you have not
humbled your heart, although you knew all this.
23 But against the Lord of the heavens you exalted
yourself, and they brought before you even the vessels of his house; and you
yourself and your grandees, your concubines and your secondary wives have been
drinking wine from them, and you have praised mere gods of silver and of gold,
copper, iron, wood and stone, that are beholding nothing or hearing nothing or
knowing nothing; but the God in whose hand your breath is and to whom all your
ways belong you have not glorified.
24 Consequently from before him [God]
there was being sent the extremity [sp] of a hand
[yd], and this very writing was inscribed.
25 And this is the writing that was inscribed: MENE, MENE,
TEKEL and PARSIN [Literally: Mina, Mina,
Shekel and dividings or halves of a shekel presumably. So we divide 50 by 1 and
by a half, getting 50x and 100x. 50x of Pentecost from 2008Nisan17 to 2008Sivan6
and 100 days of a double Pentecost from 2008Nisan17 to 2008Tammuz26. Then one more shekel takes us to
2008Tammuz27. Then on 2008Tammuz28, the
kingdom of the Watchtower starts to be divided. Also we have 50, 50 100, 100 a
mina, a mina, in shekels and then in half shekels, a total of 300x the length of
the ark. From 2007Shebat26, the first big sign, the wheat market limit
explosion, to 2008Nisan16, which we thought at the time was the first day of the
kingdom of God, but actually was Satan's abyssing day. Then 50 days later is
2008Sivan6. 100 days later is 2008Elul16, the day the Watchtower is divided, cut
in two, and people start joining the LWs as a result of the fire from the
heavens on 2008Elul14, then finally 2008Chislev26, when the kingdom of the world
is divided by the rapture, cut in two in fact, 50/50, another pun from 1Kings18.
In fact with all 6 Pentecost dates, 2007Shebat26, 2008Nisan16, 2008Sivan6,
2008Tammuz26, 2008Elul16, 2008Heshvan6 and 2008Chislev26, we have a writing on
the wall type warning or a division. The two division dates being 2008Elul16 and
2009Chislev26, 100 and 200 days after 2008Sivan6].
26 This is the interpretation of the word: MENE, God has
numbered [the days of] your kingdom and has finished it [twice].
27 TEKEL, you have been weighed in the balances and have
been found deficient.
28 PERES, your kingdom has been divided and given to the
Medes [2NC Lords] and the Persians [2NC
Kings].
29 At that time Belshazzar commanded, and they clothed Daniel with
purple, with a necklace of gold about his neck; and they heralded concerning him
that he was to become the 3rd ruler in the kingdom.
30 In that very night [the
first 6 months of the kingdom of God] Belshazzar,
the Chaldean king [Watchtower
king] was
killed [baptised into the LWs]
31 and Darius, the Mede
[not a double designation sense
prohibits] himself received the kingdom, being
about 62 years old [The angel of Laodicea].
However we know from the feeding of the 5,000 and from the writing on the wall of Daniel 5 that the Watchtower has authority to feed the saints for precisely 100x. Since 5,000 men sat down in groups of 50 and 100, giving a witness to 50x of groups sitting down and 100x of groups sitting down. And since in Daniel 5 Nebuchadnezzar is WSS2, Belshazzar is GNS2 and the 1000 grandees are a 1,000 day unauthorised bread/ feast [lxm] of GNS2, from 2004Tishri1, the first day of the first regnal month after the accession month of 2004Elul when the Watchtower became a false religion until 2007Tammuz11, when the second good for nothing slave (GNS2) declares a fast (but not for long) and we now know the meaning of MENE MENE TEKEL and PARSIN. It means the days of the Watchtower are numbered in two ways. A mina (50 shekels) in terms of shekels, which is 50x, and a mina (50 shekels) in terms of half shekels, which is 100x. But these are the same numbers that we saw in the case of the feeding of the 5,000. So again the Watchtower has authority to feed the saints for 100 years precisely, 100x, from 1895Tishri to 1995Tishri15. And then FDS1 feeds for 50 years from 29Heshvan to 79Heshvan. This is the second numbering of their days. This for one thing proves that there two true churches run by 1NC saints.
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INCORRECT EARLIER INTERPRETATION...
Here is the account symbolism of the literal account and the event symbolism of verse 5 which is a vision.
| Symbolic word/phrase | Word count | Symbolic meaning |
| Belshazzar | 6x | Henschel the king of the Fallen FDS3, the evil slave |
| Belshazzar the king | 1x | Henschel the king of FDS3 before it fell |
| King Belshazzar | 1x | |
| The King | 20x | FDS3 |
| The Queen | 2x | The remnant of the New covenant saints in FDS3 |
| King Nebuchadnezzar your father | 1x | Jesus, eternal father of the spiritual souls of FDS3 |
| Nebuchadnezzar your father | 1x | FDS1 in heaven, they baptised the people in FDS3 |
| your father | 1x | This is a witness to a different type of fathering in the symbolic meaning to the literal physical fatherhood of Nebuchadnezzar over Belshazzar, namely by baptism, being the mediator of an angelic soul. |
| Father | 6x | |
| Vessels of gold removed from the temple | n/a | New Covenant saints, rejected by Jesus on 1995Tishri15, who is operating through FDS1 in heaven |
| Vessels of silver removed from the temple | n/a | Water baptised brothers and sisters in the Watchtower who were also disfellowshipped by Jesus through FDS1 in heaven in 2001Tishri30 |
| Vessels | 2x | |
| Grandees | 4x | Henschel's men in the Watchtower, the ruling elite (some are new covenant saints and some aren't) |
| 1000 Grandees | 1x | 1,000 days of feeding grandness with new wine. Sometime etween 1992Elul16 and 1995Adar11. Best guess is from 1993Sivan1 to 1995Adar11 when Gordon was disfellowshipped. |
| Concubines | 2x | Those thought to be loyal to Henschel who spiritually fornicate with him, giving their loyalty to him and his words rather that to God and his word. The Brooklyn Bethelites and such like. |
| Secondary wives | 2x | Second New covenant saints |
| Wine | 4x | New decoded and better literal understandings of FDS4 (the contents of this book and its predecessors - see [History]) |
| Lampstand | 1x | Congregation of Philadelphia, the Lords' Witnesses |
| In front of the Lampstand | n/a | We can see the meaning of the writing |
| The Back of the hand | x2 | The Watchtower cannot see how the Lords' Witnesses are doing it |
| Fingers of a Man's hand | 1x | Decoding is the work (hand) of a man (man) deducing the existence of further symbolic meanings in the bible, effectively writing more scripture. However the fingers refer to the 5 resurrections of the remnant in each presence, so FDS1 in heaven are guiding the decoding here. Yes, Jesus is operating through them. |
| Hand | 3x | |
| Writing on the wall | n/a | Decoded understandings relating to Wall |
| Plaster of wall | n/a | What holds together the wall |
| Wall | 1x | Entrance and exit mechanism for FDS3, their laws and baptism |
| Gods of gold silver copper iron wood stone | 2x | Remnant in first 5 watches of FDS3 & in WSS2 (the Wicked and sluggish slave of Matthew 25 of the second presence - see [35]) |
| Gold | 5x | |
| Banqueting Hall | 1x | Finding out about the new understandings (the place to drink the new wine) |
| Daniel | 7x | Gordon |
| Nebuchadnezzar humiliated and then re-instated | n/a | The History of FDS1 and the transition to FDS2 |
| Daniel clothed with purple | n/a | King of FDS4 |
| Purple | 3x | |
| Necklace | 3x | |
| Necklace of Gold | 3x | His Kingdom is adorned with New covenant Saints - eventually. |
| As 3rd one in Kingdom he will rule | n/a | Jesus>New covenant saints in heaven>Gordon on earth |
| Kingdom | 7x | |
| Belshazzar commanded | n/a | Henschel repents. Accepts the new wine and FDS4, having understood the writing on the wall. |
| Belshazzar killed | n/a | Henschel renounces his false spirit baptism and becomes a Nethinim. Taking a role with some aspects rather like Paul. |
| Medes and Persians | x1 | Second New Covenant saints (Nethinim) and Great Crowd. |
Mene means numbered or a Mina (50 Shekels)
Tekel means weighed or a Shekel
Parsin means halves
Peres means divided or a half
To Belshazzar the WSS2, the composite alliance UN-like slave of the fallen FDS3 & the Nethinim:
| Mene Mene Tekel & Parsin |
Mina, Mina in terms of Shekels and Half Shekels, i.e. 50 times and 100 times. |
40 And they laid themselves down in groups of a hundred and of fifty (Mark 6).
| MENE | ?? |
| MENE | God has numbered your kingdom and finished it |
| TEKEL | You have been weighed in the balances and found deficient |
| PERES |
Your kingdom has been divided and given to the spiritual Romans and Greeks, the Nethinim and the Great Crowd under FDS4 |
To the King, FDS3
| Mene Mene Tekel & Parsin |
Mina, Mina in terms of Shekels and Half Shekels, i.e. 50 times and 100 times. |
| MENE | 100 years of FDS3, 1895Tishri to 1994Tammuz (inclusive) |
| MENE | God has numbered your kingdom and finished it |
| TEKEL | You have been weighed in the balances and found deficient |
| PERES |
Your kingdom has been divided and given to the WSS and FDS4. |
The account symbolism of Verse 5 has a different king a different writing and a different the hand. The King is Jesus, the hand is the 5 resurrections in each presence of the new covenant saints. The lampstand is the heavenly host, still a congregation. The writing is the roll of honour on the plaque on the wall of heavenly Jerusalem. Like we do down here for war heroes.
To king, Jesus
| Mene Mene Tekel & Parsin |
Mina, Mina, 2 resurrections of numbers of men in terms of Shekels and ½ Shekels |
| MENE | God has numbered (the brothers of) your kingdom and has started it. |
| TEKEL | You have been weighed in the balances & have been found righteous |
| PERES |
Your kingdom has been divided (into 2 presences with 5 resurrections in each presence - see the hands of Gabriel in Daniel 12) . |
We already know from Gabriel’s two hands raised to the heavens in Daniel 12, that there are 5 resurrections in each presence. We know too that the presence lasts 120 years and starts with the pattern - see [41], [42], and that the resurrections occur at 33.5 years into the presence and at 30, 60 and 100x from a starting point in the presence and at the end of each presence from Daniel 12. So in the last presence these dates are 1918Nisan, 1925Tishri, 1955Tishri, 1995Tishri and 2008Nisan. The starting point for the 30, 60, 100 times is not 1884Tishri, the sanctification of Russell, it is 33½ years later, following the archetype set by Jesus, the fundamental pattern. So it is 1918Nisan. And the last one dies in 2008Nisan, 90 years later.
In the first presence Jesus was resurrected on 33Nisan16. And there was a resurrection at the end of the presence in 123Nisan (assuming a 3.5 year gap in the presence - U152). So there must have been three others, and so the 30x resurrection would have been in 29Tishri, the instant the resurrection of the non adamic human son of Mary and Joseph, who was transferred so as not to see death at the entrance of Michael [14b]. He did not need any covenant to save him, he was not adamic and kept the law. The 60x and the 100x harvests would be 59Tishri and 99Tishri, and the final resurrection at the end of the first presence was 123Nisan.
Now how was the 144,000 split between the two presences?
Well the 5,000 was fed before the 4,000. And the tabernacle had one quarter of the size of Solomon’s temple and of Zerubbabel’s temple, in area terms. So if we equate the exile of the physical Jews in the prison of Babylon during which time they had no temple, with the non existence of the spiritual temple brothers during the wheat and weeds period, the Intermission Times, then we have one and one quarter temple areas before the exile and one temple area after the exile. Again this is a 5:4 ratio as in the case of the two feeding miracles. So now we can say that the split of the remnant was:
| 5x16,000=80,000 in the first presence | 4x16,000=64,000 in the second presence. |
Furthermore, the split of the first temple, the first presence body was:
| 16,000 physical Jews (tabernacle floor area) | 64,000 physical Gentiles (Solomon’s temple floor area) |
Now in the first presence we have 80,000 to split into three resurrections, and we know from Daniel 5 that the split can be expressed as shekels and half shekels. In fact: Mene, Mene, Tekel and Parsin, is: A Mina, a Mina, a Shekel and half shekels. The half shekels is plural, so there are at least two of these.
x + ½x + ½x = 80,000 i.e. x = 40,000
We put the shekels before the half shekels, because the writing said Tekel & Parsin, it did not say Parsin and Tekel! This is the roll of honour of the palace wall of King Jesus on heavenly mount Zion:
5 At that moment the fingers of a man's hand came forth and were writing in front of the lampstand upon the plaster of the wall of the palace of the king, and the king was beholding the back of the hand that was writing (Daniel 5).
These guys are the stone in that wall, bound together by the plaster, the writing upon which is here symbolising their being bound together in resurrections groups for they are the heavenly locust. And the locust changes its skin 5 times, it has 5 stages called ‘instars’. Oh! what a name, for an animal symbolising those resurrected into the stars! The last stage is when it can fly. But the 5 instars can jump really high!
15 Even there fire will devour you. A sword will cut you off. It
will devour you like the locust species. Make yourself heavy in numbers like the
locust species; make yourself heavy in numbers like the locust.
16 You have multiplied your tradesmen more than the stars of the
heavens. As for the locust species, it actually strips off its skin; then it
flies away.
17 Your guardsmen are like the locust, and your recruiting
officers like the locust swarm. They are camping in the stone pens in a cold
day. The sun itself has but to shine forth, and away they certainly flee; and
their place is really unknown where they are (Nahum 3).
5 And it was granted the [locusts], not to kill them, but that
these should be tormented five months, and the torment upon them was as torment
by a scorpion when it strikes a man.
6 And in those days the men will seek death but will by no
means find it, and they will desire to die but death keeps fleeing from them.
7 And the likenesses of the locusts resembled horses prepared
for battle; and upon their heads [were] what seemed to be crowns like gold, and
their faces [were] as men's faces (Revelation 9).
In the second presence we have five resurrections again in terms of Shekels and ½ Shekels.
In the second presence the five resurrections must be of size x or ½x, and again there must be at least two of size ½x, but we ignore this criterion and examine all the possibilities. Again the shekels precede the half shekels, so they must be:
x + ½x + ½x + ½x + ½x = 64,000 i.e. x = 21,333.33 which is impossible
or x + x + ½x + ½x + ½x = 64,000 i.e. x = 18,285.71 which again is impossible
or x + x + x + ½x + ½x = 64,000 i.e. x = 16,000 which is fine.
So the 5 second presence resurrections are
| 1918Nisan16 | 16,000 |
| 1925Tishri | 16,000 |
| 1955Tishri | 16,000 |
| 1995Tishri | 8,000 |
| 2008Nisan14 | 8,000 |
And the 5 first presence resurrections as calculated above are:
| 29Tishri | Jesus, the human |
| 33Nisan | Jesus the Michael |
| 59Tishri | 40,000 |
| 99Tishri | 20,000 |
| 123Nisan | 20,000 |
From this we can deduce the memorial partaking figures in the second presence as follows:
| 1918 | 48,000 |
| 1925/6 | 32,000 |
| 1955/6 | 16,000 |
| 1995/6 | 8,000 |
| 2008 | very few |
The actual memorial partaking figures were:
| 1914 | ? | 1941 | 23,989 | 1968 | 10,619 |
| 1915 | 15,430 | 1942 | 24,035 | 1969 | 10,368 |
| 1916 | ? | 1943 | 23,577 | 1970 | 10,526 |
| 1917 | 21,274 | 1944 | 29,385 | 1971 | 10,384 |
| 1918 | ? | 1945 | 22,324 | 1972 | 10,350 |
| 1919 | 17,961 | 1946 | 27,587 | 1973 | 10,523 |
| 1920 | ? | 1947 | 26,449 | 1974 | 10,723 |
| 1921 | ? | 1948 | 25,395 | 1975 | 10,550 |
| 1922 | 32,661 | 1949 | 24,312 | 1976 | 10,187 |
| 1923 | 42,000 | 1950 | 22,723 | 1977 | 10,080 |
| 1924 | 62,696 | 1951 | 21,619 | 1978 | 9,762 |
| 1925 | 90,434 | 1952 | 20,221 | 1979 | |
| 1926 | 89,278 | 1953 | 19,108 | 1980 | |
| 1927 | ? | 1954 | 17,884 | 1981 | |
| 1928 | 17,380 | 1955 | 16,815 | 1982 | |
| 1929 | 1956 | 16,302 | 1983 | ||
| 1930 | 1957 | 15,628 | 1984 | ||
| 1931 | 1958 | 15,037 | 1985 | ||
| 1932 | 1959 | 14,511 | 1986 | ||
| 1933 | 1960 | 13,911 | 1987 | 8,808 | |
| 1934 | 1961 | 13,284 | 1988 | 8,685 | |
| 1935 | 1962 | 12,714 | 1989 | 8,734 | |
| 1936 | 1963 | 12,292 | 1990 | 8,869 | |
| 1937 | 1964 | 11,953 | 1991 | 8,850 | |
| 1938 | 36,732 | 1965 | 11,550 | 1992 | 8,683 |
| 1939 | 29,385 | 1966 | 11,179 | 1993 | 8,693 |
| 1940 | 27,620 | 1967 | 10,981 | 1994 | 8,617 |
| 1995 | 8,650 | ||||
| 1996 | 8,750 |
The figure at the 1925 and 1926 memorials was too high because the great crowd had been called, I think at the Cedar Point Convention in 1922. These did not recognise that they were not anointed until the Washington DC convention in 1935, when Judge Rutherford said: Behold the Great Crowd! see [162].
1955 16,815
1956 16,302
1995 8,650 (approx)
1996 8,750 (approx)
Fantastic agreement!